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Offline woofer

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Re:Project : UK Forces
« Reply #225 on: 16 Jan 2003, 00:05:54 »
Staffordshire Regiment wear sackcloth (hessian) behind their badges as a reminder of the Battalion that was left on a carribean colonial outpost without support for some years.

When the Army did remember them they found that the soldiers had patched their uniforms with hessian bags (that the rations had come in) that much that very little red was left...

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« Reply #226 on: 16 Jan 2003, 11:30:00 »
Thanks for pointing that out Woofer.  ;D

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« Reply #227 on: 16 Jan 2003, 12:32:31 »
I know this question has been asked before but what units are a section of infantry.
According to what "A Pocket Guide to the British Army 2002/2003", they say
- Cpl. Rifleman
- L/Cpl. Rifleman
- Rifleman
- Rifleman
- Rifleman
- Rifleman
- LSW Gunner
- LSW Gunner

In my own oppinion, it would be

- Cpl. Rifleman
- L/Cpl. Rifleman
- Grenadier
- LAW Soldier
- Rifleman
- Rifleman
- LSW Gunner
- LSW Gunner

I know I missed the radioman, but the 1 i/c would have a small radio in a radio pouch that would link him with the rest of the platoon. The larger radio that would link the platoon with the rest of the Company would be carried by the radioman in the platoon HQ, which consists of the OC (Lt. or Cpt.), 2 i/c (Sgt or Staff/Colour Sgt), and the Radioman.
Am I right or wrong?                  
 
 

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« Reply #228 on: 16 Jan 2003, 18:48:31 »
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Thanks for pointing that out Woofer.  
NP. Btw the sackcloth can only be seen through the badge - it doesn't line the outside edges.

Section organisation

As per the Pocket Guide. Anyone can carry LAW's as per the armoured threat or the task - as many as required.

Radio's to the platoon commander and sergeant are carried by the section commanders and 2ics of all three sections. The Platoon radio op carries comms to other platoons and the company commander and 2ic.

Unless we're adding gimpies and .50's to the equation. More later
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Re:Project : UK Forces
« Reply #229 on: 16 Jan 2003, 20:34:29 »
At the moment i've got Platoon Organisation as follows.

3  x Rifle Section:

Squad Leader (SA-80)
Asst. Squad Leader (SA-80)
4 Riflemen (SA-80)
2 Support (LSW)

1 x Manoever Support Section:

Plt. Sgt.
2 X GPMG Gunner
2 X Asst Gunner

1 x Platoon Command Section:

1 x Officer
1 x Radio Op.
1 x Rifleman (there to "simulate" a FAC/FOO officer)
1 x Medic

For the Paras/RMs one of the Riflemen is replaced by LMG Gunner (Minimi).


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« Reply #230 on: 16 Jan 2003, 23:31:32 »
Well according to the "guide" I mentioned above, the manouevre support section consists of

- Section commander (Cpl.)
- GPMG Gunner
- GPMG Gunner
- GPMG Assisstant
- GPMG Assisstant
- 51mm Mortor Operator

Also where is the Grenadiers?

And what troop capacity does the Warrior have?
I've heard from one place it's seven, and another said eight, I know it has seven seats for the infantry in the rear but could an eighth sit on the floor?


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« Reply #231 on: 17 Jan 2003, 01:07:01 »
@vade_101

Nothing to add - 51mm mortar is a OFP problem.

@screaming eagle

By grenadiers do you mean some sort of bastardised SA80/M203?

Current issue is a rifle propelled grenade, which any (unmodified) rifle can fire. However there are limited numbers of sights per unit.

Crew for Warrior is 3 - commander, driver, gunner. Cargo for the troop carrier is 7. Seven very good friends who don't mind banging heads. (Why do they send psychos on driver cadres?). You could sit someone on the floor as a planning thing but I doubt they'd be able to get out and fight - most of the vibration comes through the floor.

Dunno on the command version
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« Reply #232 on: 17 Jan 2003, 01:11:39 »
Well, the sa80 doesn't have commonly issued grenade launcher. the Marines have been trying the AG36 out in Afghanistan.

The only other way of doing it is with Rifle Launched grenades. but outside of MOUT/FIBUA type training im not sure how common these are (tho i suppose i'd best find out)

The source i have for the Warrior says 8 soldiers + 2 crew, or 7 Soldiers + 3 Crew.

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« Reply #233 on: 17 Jan 2003, 11:46:04 »
I've heard of the "bullet catcher", pretty cool. Since you don't have to carry a greandelauncher so, it doesn't affect the weight of theweapon. You could add it to the game. It works almost exactly the same way as the ingame rifle launched mortar. The only difference being that that the ingame mortar doesn't need a rifle round to propell it while the bullet catcher does.

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« Reply #234 on: 17 Jan 2003, 16:30:27 »
Desert Troops:

Marines

Paratroopers:

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« Reply #235 on: 17 Jan 2003, 17:11:32 »
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! :wow:
Those look so cool!
Can you still have the different faces with the straps on the helmets?

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« Reply #236 on: 17 Jan 2003, 17:46:26 »
Oh goodie!!!!!  :D
When will these beauties be released?
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« Reply #237 on: 17 Jan 2003, 18:39:08 »
i have three words rolled into 1
omg
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« Reply #238 on: 17 Jan 2003, 19:09:25 »
Well, the sa80 doesn't have commonly issued grenade launcher. the Marines have been trying the AG36 out in Afghanistan.

The only other way of doing it is with Rifle Launched grenades. but outside of MOUT/FIBUA type training im not sure how common these are (tho i suppose i'd best find out)


I don't really see a problem with chucking in a few AG36s so that they are balanced with other units out there. But if your going for heavy realism, I don't think they even use Rifle grenades en masse.
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« Reply #239 on: 17 Jan 2003, 19:19:19 »
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Can you still have the different faces with the straps on the helmets?

Yeah, if you look at the guy kneeling by the landy he has a different face.

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I don't really see a problem with chucking in a few AG36s so that they are balanced with other units out there. But if your going for heavy realism, I don't think they even use Rifle grenades en masse.

There will be an Infantry Soldier with the SA-80/AG36 i just don't think he'll be in the squads. He will be with the marines tho. (and probably the Para's too)