take away savegame

[dmakatra]

Is there somehow I can remove the savegame + deleting so that the Savegame cheat cannot be used? Can it be done?

Thanks!

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[asmodeus]

As far as I know, unless you create an entire mod of the game (and maybe not even then) you cannot disable the savegame cheat.

Asmo

[dmakatra]

crap... :-\

Maybe there's a workaround?

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[.pablo.]

er, maybe save the game as soon as the player is killed?  though i'm pretty sure the savegame command just updates the retry position.

now that i think of it, the player will always be able to save and then alt-tab and take the save game file out of the folder, so unless you somehow completely take away his ability to save, he'll be able to work around it.

btw, why do u want to take it away (just curious)?

[dmakatra]

I need to take away it cause I don't want the player to engage in, for example, a conversation and have 2 things to say, where one of the alternatives is a bit risky(it might be a threat for example). I don't want him to save and then load right after if it turns bad since it'll make the game so much more boring.

Anyway, I was thinking if you could somehow recognize if the player loads the game(not retries)he will be setdammage 1 or something?

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[macguba]

lol if the player wants to do something daft that makes themission less fun for him to play then let him, it's his funeral.

And remember, since you can have at most 2 saves (load and retry) all you need to do is put in a couple of "fake" branches along the way and he'll rapidly run out of savegames.   That is, extra conversations where there appears to be a choice but in fact the outcome is the same ... but of course the player doesn't know that.  Or, the outcomes are different but they rapidly lead back to the same, main, branch.

If you're doing a branching story DO THE MATHS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.      Its x^2 if each branch has two choices, so if you have four (real) branch points that's 16 different mission endings you have to create.    

[dmakatra]

Well, the great thing is there is no mission ending in my mission. It can't be completed. It keeps on and on and on for ages.

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[h-]

And remember, since you can have at most 2 saves (load and retry)

Ain't there that left shift + numpad minus + savegame cheat also...
I'm pretty sure you can't circumvent that...

Well, the great thing is there is no mission ending in my mission.  It can't be completed.  It keeps on and on and on for ages.

lol

Like a gift that keeps on giving...

[macguba]

I  mean you can save as many times as you want, if you cheat, but you can only load two - "load" and "retry".

[dmakatra]

Ain't there that left shift + numpad minus + savegame cheat also...
I'm pretty sure you can't circumvent that...
lol

Like a gift that keeps on giving...

no, more like a gift that never ends.

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[h-]

no, more like a gift that never ends

Well, that's even better...  

[dmakatra]

Well, that's even better...  

ya, I know, that's why I make the mission ;D

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[Chris Death]

Well, the great thing is there is no mission ending in my mission.  It can't be completed.  It keeps on and on and on for ages.

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Is there somehow I can remove the savegame + deleting so that the Savegame cheat cannot be used? Can it be done?

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Wow Armsty,

i seem to start understanding the goal of your mission.

You want to make the game sooooo boring to everyone,
playing that mission, that you gonna be the last and only
one, playing OFP.  ;D

Nah m8, i don't think there's a way to do that, but hey - wait:

what about having an object or unit on the map, which is
required to be there, or the mission won't run.
Now once the mission is initialized, you deleteVehicle that
object/unit.

Player saves the game, reloads/retries - object/unit is not
there -> mission will not continue.

You could do the check for that object/unit's presence by
using the variable missionstart.

AFAIK the time is reset to zero after reloading a save game.
Now everytime the time is zero you check for the object's/unit's
presence, and if not there - force end or so  

~S~ CD

[dmakatra]

Hmmm... I still want the player to retry though... :-\

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[LCD]

just tell em not 2 do so

like - in da readme (or even in a hint in da start or part of da breifing) tel da player dat da mision continue nywayz

nywayz as much as i know da OFP community most of us continmue playing unless it tick us wrong or even den just 2 c da end of dat option - so it doesnt realy matter - nd if som1 wanna get bored its deir prob

btw u got me interested so u gotta IM me n tel me wat u doin or... or... ill never finish NPD2 j/K

LCD OUT