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unkie

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new formations
« on: 30 Dec 2002, 11:57:12 »
hey, just wondering if it was possible to create new formations for squads, e.g a travelling column with two scouts ahead and the rest following 20 or so metres behind

_hammy_

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Re:new formations
« Reply #1 on: 30 Dec 2002, 18:49:32 »
yes im sure it could be possible.

Offline uiox

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Re:new formations
« Reply #2 on: 30 Dec 2002, 23:01:55 »
U can do it but with 2 # squads and wps...

Jakerod

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Re:new formations
« Reply #3 on: 11 Jan 2003, 22:38:56 »
I always wanted a formation for urban combat where you have all your guys in a tight column. Or where you have two columns on on either side of the street.

Diepvriezer

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Re:new formations
« Reply #4 on: 11 Jan 2003, 23:37:21 »
yeah, and my desert units are already placed in one nice line with the rearmans at the back 2 meters from the rest of the group, I hope you cna make this a formation :D

Offline General Barron

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Make 'em realistic!
« Reply #5 on: 14 Jan 2003, 06:59:09 »
If anyone does do something like this, will they PLEASE, for the love of god, make it a realistic formation??? I'm tired of always seeing in movies and video games this bullcrap where everyone is like 5 meters away from each other. I wonder what happens if a grenade lands b/t them...? BOOM! 2 kills with one throw!

In RL the trick is to stay far enough apart so that one grenade can't take out more than one person. So, if the casulty radius of a grenade is 15 meters, each person should be 30 meters apart from the next person. This may seem like a lot of distance, but that's the way it really works.
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Josef

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Re:new formations
« Reply #6 on: 14 Jan 2003, 19:25:04 »
I know movies and video games are not realistic but, man...

Imagine a movie with the actors shouting at eachother from their correct place in the formation ;D

And just for the record, HE in OPF does NOT kill people at 15 meters, so there is no need for that large formations...

But an Urban formation with short space between the men would be good, as keeping the team close is imprtant at point blanc range :P

Also a escorting formation could be good, with the 2 and 3 guys escorting the one with the last number, as this is allways the one that joined the squad last...

Pandoz

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Re:Make 'em realistic!
« Reply #7 on: 16 Jan 2003, 06:25:58 »
If anyone does do something like this, will they PLEASE, for the love of god, make it a realistic formation??? I'm tired of always seeing in movies and video games this bullcrap where everyone is like 5 meters away from each other. I wonder what happens if a grenade lands b/t them...? BOOM! 2 kills with one throw!

In RL the trick is to stay far enough apart so that one grenade can't take out more than one person. So, if the casulty radius of a grenade is 15 meters, each person should be 30 meters apart from the next person. This may seem like a lot of distance, but that's the way it really works.

realistic yes...30 meters apart...definitely NOT... One u cant provide supporting fire effectively on hilly terrain at those distances in most cases on OFP. Also in Urban areas a grenade could take out 5-6 guys easily, but then again u have 5-6 bullets going at the one guy very quickly in succession so its not likely that he will get his grenade off or in the right spot. Also yes i agree that the formations should be realistic, but it should be more of a covering/supporting thing rather than the left flank thing that is the only decent one to use in the game...even though its still not good.

Diepvriezer

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Re:new formations
« Reply #8 on: 16 Jan 2003, 17:12:54 »
Make a formation for special ops teams infiltrating buildings :P
They will stand like this:

 :-*  <- Man 1
 :-*  <- Man 2
 :-*  <- Man 3
 :-*  <- Man 4
 :-*  <- Man 5


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Josef

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Re:new formations
« Reply #9 on: 29 Jan 2003, 16:47:24 »
Right, something like the formation in Rogue Spear would be good...

And while throwing nades in OPF you are sitting cuck for TWO seconds, THATS A LONG TIME!!!

Fishion

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Re:new formations
« Reply #10 on: 29 Jan 2003, 19:08:06 »
Well as General Barron said,
you spread out as far as possible, and as close as
necessary. Needless to say that in the Woods you stay closer than on an open field. When traveling in a staggered collumn on a road the minimum distance between men should be 8m, but that's already short,
usually our columns in training spread out over 100-200
meters (8 to 12 men)...you should always expect an ambush...well then this means the closer you are together the easier it is for the enemy...

just my 2 cent

Josef

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Re:new formations
« Reply #11 on: 30 Jan 2003, 14:59:24 »
OR get cut down one by one at the hands of a talented sniper...

Offline General Barron

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Okay, I'm done. Go ahead and make your own formations!
« Reply #12 on: 16 Feb 2003, 09:28:52 »
I just finished up a script that allows the editor to quickly and easily make custom formations  ;D. Basically you give X/Y coordinates for each member of the squad, relative to the leader. So, giving #2 (-10, 23) would make him stay 10 meters to the leader's left, and 23 meters in front of the leader. It's easy and it works great! It works with AI squads, with squads led by the player, and even in squads led by AI, and later taken over by the player (after the leader is killed).

I'm about to post the script, but if anyone has any suggestions of formations to be included in the upload, go ahead and post them.
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Josef

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Re:new formations
« Reply #13 on: 04 Mar 2003, 14:26:09 »
I have it, I made some nice formations, mostly tight ones...



One is the refused flang, designed for having any flankers cut down...

Plizkin

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Re:new formations
« Reply #14 on: 07 Mar 2003, 15:56:54 »
could you make a "formation editor" ?  Looks approximately so:

°1   °2  
    °3

etc.