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CPT Rooster

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LTC Kilgore from Apocalypse NOW!
« on: 23 Apr 2005, 17:33:20 »
Has anyone seen or know of an addon that might looks like LTC Kilgore? I downloaded the SEB Nam Pack and it rocks. I just so happened to watch Apocalypse Now for the first time and I wanted to recreate missions from the movie on OFP.

I have attached a picture of him just in case you might not know who I am talking about...

Please let me know. Thanks

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Re:LTC Kilgore from Apocalypse NOW!
« Reply #1 on: 24 Apr 2005, 06:08:55 »
i know who ur talking about. the air cav pilot (that comes with NamPack) would work as kilgore when he's in the chopper, but i assume you want the kilgore with his trademark cavalry hat. haven't seen one of them.
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Re:LTC Kilgore from Apocalypse NOW!
« Reply #2 on: 24 Apr 2005, 07:32:47 »
i know who ur talking about. the air cav pilot (that comes with NamPack) would work as kilgore when he's in the chopper, but i assume you want the kilgore with his trademark cavalry hat. haven't seen one of them.

Thanks anyway. I checked around too and I haven't seen any Air Cav officers with the Stetson Hat. He's gonna have to be made if I really want him in my missions. I don't know how to create addons, but now is a good time to start learning.

He's a good addon for Nam missions, plus he's a kick-azz character.

StonedSoldier

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Re:LTC Kilgore from Apocalypse NOW!
« Reply #3 on: 24 Apr 2005, 11:04:29 »
maybe you could fiddle with some of the models from the  civil war mod since they have the same type of Cavalry dress hat

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Re:LTC Kilgore from Apocalypse NOW!
« Reply #4 on: 25 Apr 2005, 11:06:57 »
Hey does anyone know that Marlon Brandos character is based on a true story?..the French started doing it they would get one of there most talented  SF operators and get them to interbreed with the hilltribes and when the moment was right they would get them to make a move against terrorists forces seeing that what the operator would be doing is marrying a local girl having kids with her and recruiting her family and tribe as his own private guerilla force and training them...one time the US did this and when they contacted the SF operator and told him they wanted him to make a move against the VC he told them to get fucked because he had children with a local woman and the tribe were his family and there was nothing they could do about it he was feautured in time magazine in the late 60's early 70's thats where the concept comes from I think you could make some cool missions and campaigns using that story as a bases but you would need some very well done Hilltribes men addons made,also has anyone created any ARVN troops if not this is an important missing element also having some good mercenaries from the time made would look cool its easy to get pictures off the net and out of old Soldier of Fortune photos

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Re:LTC Kilgore from Apocalypse NOW!
« Reply #5 on: 25 Apr 2005, 15:15:12 »
The whole "Apocalypse Now" story is of course a straight knock-off
of "Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad. Even down to some of the
dialogue. I did like the "Apocalypse Now Redux" version that
came out recently. It features a plantation owned (and defended)
by a French family who refuse to "just go home" because it's their
land and they defend it on principle (it's one of the best parts in the
new version of the film - you might like it, Agent Luciane).

There are good ARVN troops available in the SEB nam pack.

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« Reply #6 on: 26 Apr 2005, 05:17:53 »
Hey does anyone know that Marlon Brandos character is based on a true story?..the French started doing it they would get one of there most talented  SF operators and get them to interbreed with the hilltribes and when the moment was right they would get them to make a move against terrorists forces seeing that what the operator would be doing is marrying a local girl having kids with her and recruiting her family and tribe as his own private guerilla force and training them...one time the US did this and when they contacted the SF operator and told him they wanted him to make a move against the VC he told them to get f**ked because he had children with a local woman and the tribe were his family and there was nothing they could do about it he was feautured in time magazine in the late 60's early 70's thats where the concept comes from I think you could make some cool missions and campaigns using that story as a bases but you would need some very well done Hilltribes men addons made,also has anyone created any ARVN troops if not this is an important missing element also having some good mercenaries from the time made would look cool its easy to get pictures off the net and out of old Soldier of Fortune photos

listen to jimpy. Apocolypse Now isn't true. it's based on a novel that was written about 70 years before the vietnam war.
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Re:LTC Kilgore from Apocalypse NOW!
« Reply #7 on: 26 Apr 2005, 07:31:28 »
The US and the French actually did intergrate SF soldiers into the native community...?where are you from Moglor?Iam from Australia but have grown up in Vietnam and live here.. go to the Ho Chi Minh city war museum and try to tell me that the americans where brave and corageous and new what they were doing most of the things which the western world knows about Vietnam is absolute bullshit..the film may be based on heart of darkness but Marlon Brandos character actually existed and many others like him I did not know myself until a friend of mine who is ex-101st Airborne told me about it and showed me the artical which was in time magazine..so go argue with someone else everything you seem to input is counter creative

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Re:LTC Kilgore from Apocalypse NOW!
« Reply #8 on: 26 Apr 2005, 09:08:25 »
I believe our colleague morglor9 was merely disputing the fact that "the
concept...[of] the Marlon Brando character...comes from" the experiences of
integrated SF personnel. If you compare the "Apocalypse Now" film and
the "Heart of Darkness" novella carefully and critically then you will see very
quickly that the Brando character of Col. Kurtz is very clearly based quite
closely and solely on the "Kurtz" character in "Heart of Darkness".  In fact
all the characters and motifs in "Apocalypse" are taken firmly and
indisputably from Conrad's novella.
I do not know, but it is entirely possible that the author of "Apocalypse"
*was* aware of the stories of integrated SF personnel that you mention
and was inspired by them to make his interpretation of "Heart of Darkness".
If  you feel so strongly about this I suggest you try to find out more about
the  author's inspiration and motivation in producing "Apocalypse Now".
Both tales are a very powerful exploration of hypocrisy, ambiguity and moral
confusion and I admire the way that the author of "Apocalypse" adapted
Conrad's work into the Vietnam setting. The parallels between the two
background situations are astonishingly appropriate.


In any case, I believe your original question has been adequately answered
already. There is no "Kilgore" character available as an OFP model.

On another note; such a petulant and juvenile outburst as the one you
perpetrated above is most unseemly, to say nothing of the childish "ad
hominem"attack on morglor9 who, despite your assertion, in fact contributes
many constructive ideas to the forum.

« Last Edit: 26 Apr 2005, 09:12:18 by Jimpy »

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Re:LTC Kilgore from Apocalypse NOW!
« Reply #9 on: 26 Apr 2005, 09:51:50 »
As a correction to one of my earlier posts. There are NVA troops in
the SEB nam pack, but not ARVN. I apologise for the mistake.

Offline Morglor9

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Re:LTC Kilgore from Apocalypse NOW!
« Reply #10 on: 26 Apr 2005, 22:56:57 »
The US and the French actually did intergrate SF soldiers into the native community...?where are you from Moglor?Iam from Australia but have grown up in Vietnam and live here.. go to the Ho Chi Minh city war museum and try to tell me that the americans where brave and corageous and new what they were doing most of the things which the western world knows about Vietnam is absolute bullsh*t..the film may be based on heart of darkness but Marlon Brandos character actually existed and many others like him I did not know myself until a friend of mine who is ex-101st Airborne told me about it and showed me the artical which was in time magazine..so go argue with someone else everything you seem to input is counter creative

i would reply to this, but jimpy did for me, and said pretty much exactly what i was going to say. your outburst was childish. my post was not making a statement as to whether or not this may have happened. i didn't say that the vietnam war was right or wrong. I merely said that the story portayed in Apocolypse Now was not true. this is a place of editing, not politics or disputes. and on that note, i wouldn't mind if you PM-ed me some examples of my "counter-creativity". i don't mean to rub this comment in your face, i merely like to know what people think of me when they make such a comment. do not, however, use the forums. this thread has gotten bad enough.

anyway, i think we answered CPT Rooster's question (even if it did get messy). all i can say is good luck CPT!
« Last Edit: 26 Apr 2005, 22:58:50 by Morglor9 »
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