Zayfod, I didn't read all posts here coz Im a lil bit short of time right now, but did you try to actually *force* them to shoot? I mean using the "fire" command. You must specify an array with the weapon and ammo, and then they will fire no matter what. Issue a Dowatch and DoTarget and give 'em like 2 secs time to properly aim, then use the "fire" command. Also, use the "reveal" command to make sure they really know about their enemy!