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DeadMeatXM2

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Re:SEB Nam Pack 2.0
« Reply #375 on: 18 Sep 2002, 13:06:19 »
nice work boys, keep it going - darn hardware failures - is it the gods(if there are any) spiteing us, so we have to wait longer for this pack  ???

anyhow, keep it up boys, and i still can't wait  8)  ;)

NoRSu

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« Reply #376 on: 18 Sep 2002, 15:49:53 »
Just use GrabClickSave, it's very easy to use and doesn't expire or add any logos to your screenshot 8).

Grab it here ;D
http://www.boumchalak.de/GCS.html

Nam pack looks very promising, can't wait for the full release.

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Re:SEB Nam Pack 2.0
« Reply #377 on: 18 Sep 2002, 16:56:46 »
Is there anyway to make the helo's take a lot more damage when small arms fire strikes the fuselage where the fuel is stored? If so, that would be great.

As for additions to the pack... could the new boat have brown water sailors to go with it? They were the main insertion by boat guys for the seals and sometimes even went onland to help a bit.

How about a sniper with a ghillie suit for the US as well as a spotter with him that has a pair of high powered binocs.

US Navy Seals would be great, but they should have the Stoner as well. Could a new carbine be made for them as well, since the carbine sounds suck? Although I guess I could just install dynamic range for resistance.

Have it so that helo's hover a few inches off the ground when unloading, so that the troops sort of jump out like in the movies.

Another nice feature would be booby traps of some sort, as well as toe-popper and claymore mines that are pointed a specific direction for their blast radious.

New models for the NVA machineguns, they seem too much like the pk. A vietnam version of the m113 would be nice, for transportation as well. The sampan is neccesary so even if water does fill it a bit, it's worth it.

A strip of narrow river where soldiers can stand waste-high, to setup seal style river ambushes.

Make it so that not just the player shooting the flare off can see, but instead everyone can.

The VC and NVA used chi-com grenades and they were quit unreliable, and sometimes would go off when they were not meant to and sometimes were duds. Can this be implemented?

A couple planes would be nice. A spectre using Captain Moore's C-130 would be alright. How about a typhoon as well? They would add that extra touch to the extensive support used by US troops in Nam. Another that goes hand in hand, is an alteration of the current artillary to fit into vietnam as a Howitzer. A mortar would be good, ask to use one of those already in existance.

Some of the VC should carry candles at night, as they used them as lights when travelling the numerous trails of nam.

A tunnel rat for the US, being as we now have a method to make tunnels and caves for nam.

Napalm that burns the foilage, knocks tree's and stuff down, etc.

Just a few suggestions from me.
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Re:SEB Nam Pack 2.0
« Reply #378 on: 18 Sep 2002, 20:36:57 »
Soldier

I'll try and reply to some of these issues.

I think the fuel tanks can be made more vulnerable. ST will know and will decide if this is viable.

BSU Sailors would be nice. Not sure if they'll get made right away though. Mostly they wore flak vest, helmet and utilities on ops... the regular troops we're making would work visually. The berets generally were not worn in combat, neither were the dungaree's on the river .

Ghillie suits were not used, based off of the various books on snipers in Vietnam that I have read. Foliage was applied through slits cut in the normal uniform, but very rarely. Usually they just wore cammies, boonie, ruck and used up lots of cammo sticks.

Yes, I have been wanting to finish some real Seals... and yes we do finally have a good Stoner Model to use... thanks to Fat Joe :) These may not go in 2.0.

Hovering off the ground during insertion is a scripting issue.

Booby traps will not be included, but should be made eventually. Aeon has a few nice boobytrap scripts.

An RPD is in the works for the NVA. Not sure about a new M-113. It would be nice, but not completely necessary. The sampans are being tested and tweaked.

A fake canal... good idea, but probbly wont work.

The view of the flares is built in to the engine as far as I know.

Dud grenades could be made, but would not be default. They could be added via scripting.

Planes are  being thought out.

Flashlights are a good idea, and could be handled like pistols rather than how they were handled in the demo models.

Tunnel rat.... probably not in the near future.

Burning trees... again probably not due to how the engine works. It would be a re-write of all the damage textures for all the plants and trees. A major overhaul.

Great ideas. Thanks. Wish I knew how to implement them all and won the lottery so I could sit around all day working on them :)



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« Last Edit: 18 Sep 2002, 20:40:14 by ebud »
If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them.
Jack Handey

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« Reply #379 on: 18 Sep 2002, 20:51:51 »
the only thing i can really comment on is the planes so here it goes: AC-130's cant be made properly in ofp, you cant have a gunner on planes so the only crew member would be a pilot, you also cant have the guns moving and the guns will all fire from the same place, i think the phantom was in the plans somewhere but its not that good a close air support plane, i read somewhere that the phantoms stall speed was too high and they would be lucky to hit the same province as the one the vc/nva were in, ive been asked to make the A-1E Skyraider and ill also maybe make the A-37 Dragonfly which were dedicated CAS and also served as FAC and SAR planes and carried a lot of ordanance, even though they are both two seaters it can be worked around without looking as unrealistic as the AC-130, some pictures:

A-1E Skyraider



Cessna A-37 Dragonfly


Schoeler

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Re:SEB Nam Pack 2.0
« Reply #380 on: 18 Sep 2002, 21:17:20 »
Eviscerator, I'm glad to see an A-1 Skyraider in the works, as it was used extensively for CAS, especially on rescue ops.  The A-37 (incidentally made by Cessna) was used mainly by the South Vietnamese Air Force (yes they had an air force).  Also used extensively for close air support were A4's (which we have), F5 Tigersharks (flown by U.S. and South Vietnam) and the workhorse of Vietnam, the A6 Intruder.  The A6 along with the F111 were the only all-weather capable bombing aircraft available in the 'Nam era as far as I know.  The F5's were seen in the napalm scene in "Apocaulypse Now" for anyone who is unfamiliar with them.

Schoeler

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« Reply #381 on: 18 Sep 2002, 21:19:33 »
Oh, by the way, is anyone working on a real PBR?  I think the real deal had an 81mm mortar fixed between the twin .50s on the front mount.  Also there were mounted M60's abaft the cabin.

Eviscerator

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« Reply #382 on: 18 Sep 2002, 21:29:12 »
The A-37 was used mainly by the USA they had much more aircraft than the South Vietnamese air force, the A-37 flew 165,000 sorties in vietnam and all the US A-37 units were awarded the 'Air Force Outstanding Unit Award', its also not too fast and could serve as observation/recon/fac in missions

Schoeler

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« Reply #383 on: 18 Sep 2002, 21:35:32 »
Ok, I'll take your word for it, those statistics are impressive.  I never heard much about the U.S. using the A37, but everything I've seen and read about the South Vietnamese Air Force shows them in A37's and F5's.  I know when we pulled out starting in 1972, the A37's went to the Vietnamese squadrons as many of them were later captured by the North in 1975.  Still I think it rather humorous that Cessna actually produced a combat aircraft and a jet at that.

Dkraver

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Re:SEB Nam Pack 2.0
« Reply #384 on: 19 Sep 2002, 01:21:45 »
Select this/ebud/evis have you thought about asking the guy's behind the "operation vietnam mod" if you could take some of the stuff they made and use it in your addon??
Think it was one from the development team that started making it, but last info is from march 24 so seems like the project is stopped/dead. And since its some of the same models that you are making it would be a waste with some of those nice looking models to go to waste  :)
On there site there's a finished skyraider in buldozer (what makes me believe that its someone from the Bis team), and they also have some other finished models by the look of it.

Well just a thought.
Link to site
http://www.operation-flashpoint.net/vietnam/index.htm

Eviscerator

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Re:SEB Nam Pack 2.0
« Reply #385 on: 19 Sep 2002, 04:08:04 »
i thin i read on their forum that they are going to be making it into a whole new game or they are working on something really exciting, cant quite remember, if its true i doubt they would let us have the models, i suppose its worth a shot though, the Skyraider(i think theirs in the H model) looks a beauty although the shot isnt taken in bulldozer:


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« Reply #386 on: 19 Sep 2002, 05:24:24 »
From being a veteran on the Operation Vietnam Forums, far as that MOD goes, I'm starting to believe the project is abandoned, I've been there at the forum about 6 months, and still no official word or announcement about anything. I guess you can consider the MOD dead, for now that is, until I believe it's official announced by the OpVietnam MOD team.

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Re:SEB Nam Pack 2.0
« Reply #387 on: 19 Sep 2002, 06:37:53 »


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If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them.
Jack Handey

DeadMeatXM2

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Re:SEB Nam Pack 2.0
« Reply #388 on: 19 Sep 2002, 11:46:29 »
looking good boys - keep it up.

Dkraver

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Re:SEB Nam Pack 2.0
« Reply #389 on: 19 Sep 2002, 13:21:02 »
The pictures in the news section looks like they are in buldozer look here