Geometry LOD max dimension

[AG_Smith]

Hi there,
I'm about to make a large harbour complex. I've made a dock model - size ca. 500x500m, so that you could fit any ship inside. The problem is that Geometry LOD doesn't work even though it's done 100% correctly (weights set, components found, hull convexed, etc.). Ingame I can simply walk, drive or shoot through it.
I've figured out that there are problems that this happens when model is any larger than about 100x100m.
Any suggestions how to make it work?

[nik]

Hi I think the Geo-lod supports only objects that are not bigger then 64m correctly.


nik

[asmodeus]

I ran into a similar problem with the TAAB addon that our Mod came out with recently.

There are 2 solutions, as I see it.

1.  Make the dock a bunch of seperate pieces that are small enough for O2 to work correctly.

2.  Make the geo lod yourself (out of many, many pieces) and do not use the component convex hull trick.  I had to do this for a couple of large buildings, but it works pretty good now!  

Hope that helps!  (If you need details, let me know)  

Asmo  

[AG_Smith]

I've chosen the 1st way. Addon is nearly ready and I'll relase it in about a week. Stay tuned for new.
64m max dim seems to be right.
Thanks for your reply.

[Tomb]

I've chosen the 1st way. Addon is nearly ready and I'll relase it in about a week. Stay tuned for new.
64m max dim seems to be right.
Thanks for your reply.

sounds good, m8 - love yer products   they really bring the game to life! and we need a big harbour indeed

[AG_Smith]

OK, it's ready. All of you, who want to see the effect of my work, go to:
http://www.of.fpp.pl/?pl:pages:show:543:::
and grab it!

[asmodeus]

Hey!

Good job!  This is a pretty good addon!  

A couple things I noticed so far that I thought might help you though..

Near the helipad at the end of the dock I fall through in a few different places...  In the jeep or on foot.  (I know how it is to work with buildings on water...  makes me feel   sometimes...  )

Oh yeah, and on those cool cranes you made, one small thing is that the height for the "control" area door is too low for a soldier standing straight up and walk through.  

I like it and it works well with large boats!  :thumbsup:  

Oh yeah, and it kinda fits well with our TAAB addon too!  (A pack with bunkers and parking garages' and other stuff that could work well to defend it or something)  

Asmo

[Tomb]

  Fantastic stuff, agent.  

And my kid loves it too... I just made him a demo harbour-míssion to show him the goods!

Like, asmo said :  the crane's control hut needs another mtr's height. And the ladder doesn't work properly
but I guess you know that already.

Apart from that its almost perfect, though the helipad piece doesnt work at all so I dont use it. Never really got why you put mass into the helipad marker, why not simply "draw" it directly on the concrete?

Ok ok, it might take a special made concrete block but it would solve the AI's problems when using it.

All in all this is a fantastic addon - in its own way, as cool as the latest chopper addons!   ;D
Now we just need a few big ( BIG ) warehouses; for now I use the hangars but we need real warehouses, with working 'balchonys' along the insides. (balchony's   ;D what are they called?)

And someone need to make us this fork-lift   that we never got!!!!!  


GREAT WORK, ags   bring more of the kind, mylordship

[AG_Smith]

Thanks for your reply, guys.

the crane's control hut needs another mtr's height. And the ladder doesn't work properly
but I guess you know that already.

Yes, I do know that.
I'll change the helipad too. Appropriate update is on the way.
Asmo: I can't find any "fall-through" places. I spent 25 minutes searching for it... Maybe this problem is yours-specific?
And one more news:
The industrial (and BIG warehouses) buildings are next in my production queue, so be patient, you'll get what you want.

[Tomb]

1.) I can't find any "fall-through" places. I spent 25 minutes searching for it...

2.) The industrial (and BIG warehouses) buildings are next in my production

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1.)  I know what this is   its not yer addon, smithyboy, its asmo and his bad setpossing   ;D

Honestly, if placed at the wrong pos, the concrete blocks (any block) will have "dangerous" edges!  
Its all just a matter of patient setpos creation  

so ease up, agent, its not your addon!  


2.) Perfect   have a looksie at the BIS aircraft hangar (the new resistance 1.70 model)
    I'd like to see a building like this - but with working stairs & ladders, a bit like the orig. bis "factory" building.  


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Oh   and here's one more request, mate :

a covered dock, like one of your harbour blocks but covered with a roof and with the posibility to walk around the (parked) ship  

could be nice

And another important thing :

The container crates are cool enough - dont change them. but add this:

we need a crate with working (animated) doors   for cutscenes

[asmodeus]

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1.)  I know what this is   its not yer addon, smithyboy, its asmo and his bad setpossing   ;D

Honestly, if placed at the wrong pos, the concrete blocks (any block) will have "dangerous" edges!  
Its all just a matter of patient setpos creation  

so ease up, agent, its not your addon!  

Who's agent??   Anyhow...  I used the example mission that came with the addon!  I didn't setpos nothin!    

It happens when I'm walking directly towards the helipad from any direction..  It's like there's a circle around it where you can fall through..  No biggy though, I just don't go over there!   ;D  Like you said, it could be specific to my comp, just wanted to make sure you knew about it!  (We have unexplained texture probs in our TAAB addon, but it only happens for very few people.... still trying to figure them out..)

Asmo

[Tomb]

  agent   well, thats agent_smith or AG_smith, diff. names in diff. worlds  
(yanno, he's also starring the latest Bond movie: Die another Addon!   ;D )


j/k there!

About the block: hmmm, wouldn't know - I never got to try the demo, I was too busy
trying my own ideas back home   ;D but you're probably right, asmo  

hek - maybe AG also made a 'wrong' setpossing in that demo, dunno really?!
but nevermind... his stuff always ends up working like a charm in the end  

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[mod.]  >> a charm in the end <<   ( ;D ) LOL

[AG_Smith]

OK, boys, the fixed version is available  (crane and helipad altered). Use the link to my page, it's somewhere above.

And to be clear, AG stands for Agent  
Tomb, I think you'll be satisfied with my warehouses, but it'll take me some time to finish them...

One more thing, tell me if you know any model animation tutorial so I could make the crate with animated doors.

[Tomb]

  Try a readthru here and here  


(it's on the oficial BIS forums - you don't have to be a member to read the threads there)

[Skaircro]

Just a little something I whipped up that you might be interested in.

Tomb, you might be interested in this too!  

You will have to do a bit of fixing on the geometry, but other that that it should be ok.

Enjoy!  

http://home.iprimus.com.au/dwright1/skc_crate.zip
(let me know if the link doesnt work)