IRA vs British Army and Security forces addons

[Noel_From_Ireland]

Well lataly I have really taken a massive interest in OFP and creating my own missions. Ive started to get the hang of code and all of that, but since im from Ireland, I would very much like to see some addons for the IRA (resistance I suppose) and the British Army (West I suppose). Some of the addons that I for one would like to see is:

Ireland

IRA soldiers (Bomber Jackets / Balaclava or black berry / Jeans / DM boots)
IRA Weapons (claymore mines / Morters / Armilites / Klashnaklov's / Home made arm held rocket launchers / RPG's and any other homemade device)

Britain

Paratroopers armed with SA-80's and those large sacks on there backs)
Westlant Wessex Chopper
Puma Chopper
Lynx Chopper

Police

Armoured Landrovers (but not armoured enough against RPGs) they are also very fast but very poor at taking corners at rapid speed.

The police just look like american swat teams here and ive saw them patrol with HK MP5's and those massive german rifles (GS3? its green anyways )


God if somebody made this I would have a great time

Bye
Noel Craig

[Noel_From_Ireland]

Also, one should take into consideration, the scale of war in the North of Ireland. Tanks were not used, neither were gunships, it all boiled down to recon / Intel, with the IRA and Britain, trying to outsmart each other, rather then cause damage on the same type of scale as other wars like Vietnam.

Therefore, large damage potential weaponary shouldnt be included.

[Josef]

HEY!

How about finally making some molotov cocktails?

Could use a modified napalm script, and some new nades that looked like bottles...

[Messiah]

hmmmm

as for the whole battle - the paras werent used as much as one would think...

they were mostly stantioned in their bases and came out during periods of high civil unrest and possible threats to society...

the SAS were much more involved with Mi6 and Mi5 tracking down IRA leaders, discovering bomb plots and the whole nine yards... and of course the good old assasinations  ;D

the police are a good choice - those landys are sweet and the police rule too. Depends what era you wanted tho - since the police were renamed recently from the Ulster Constabulary, to the NI Police (i think) - Ulster, apparently was insulting to republicans - hmmm

and the rucksacks are called bergans, and they didnt use them much in NI - not much hiking to do and so they didnt need to take all their 3rd line equipment (tents, extra clothes, rat packs) - they just needed webbings and ammo.

making a new island would be cool - base it on NI (would need the new 56x size island) and have belfast etc (sized down of course) and also remote farmhouses where the IRA would hideout and imprison hostages.

and as for weapons - hmmm, those weapons seem a bit more extreme than normal - handguns etc are more common use, and the AK74 is also true - but many older weapons are still in circulation, like FN class weapons (last used in the falklands by the army) - and obv car bombs, molotov cocktails and many homemade weapons etc - but i did see a good documentarty on channel 4 about the IRA - some of the weapons they had were scary - mortars etc, even heavy machine guns.

recreating bloody sunday would be a challenge - good fun (to make) but hard to decide any mission objectives as it was never confirmed if there were any armed men in the croud that was attacked by the paras - i think they shot only one IRA member in an alley way, but the rest were civies  :-\

[Gravedigga]

I find this post extremely distressing and offensive....the ongoing Northern Ireland conflict has resulted in numerous British and Irish lives being taken, which is deeply upsetting for all families and friends involved....to see it described as "God if somebody made this I would have a great time" and "recreating bloody sunday would be a challenge - good fun (to make)" - this is insulting and distressing to all those involved in the conflict....I take a firmly neutral stance on the whole affair, but I wish to see the situation defused as peacefully and satisfactorally as possible. By making out that the IRA hide out in remote farmhouses and take people hostage, and that the entirety of Northern Island is a combat zone with daily battles belies the fact that serious work is being done to remedy the situation, and certainly gives the wrong impression about Ireland as a country...

[Skaven]

Yes, please Noel_From_Ireland let's make this topic purely addon making related, no politics here and no comments like the ones mentioned, it's not that they were extremely agreesive, or against rules,but we have Irish,Brittish,German,Portuguese,Italian,Spanish and god knows how many more people, so some kind of words may be interperted wrong  
Please let's keep this topic soft if you know what I mean, ofpec is a worldwide website so we have to be specially careful when aproaching some topics like this one, the essence ain't wrong, but the nature may open some problems.  

[Vyper]

The Vietnam War is close to many people and a lot don't like to talk about it.....same with all wars, theres always gonna be people who take some kind of offence. but still, i'm a fence guy so i'm gonna sit on it!

As for the idea, a good one.....but conflict is hard to do when its like it is there....If anybody has seen "In The Name Of the father" then the opening scene might be a good one to do....its a riot mainly...which is what N.I. is mostly about, and squad tactical soldiering doesn't really fit in. But i guess its worth a shot. (no pun intended)

Vyper

[Cplme]

Bringing it back on to topic i think the idea is very good and should be taking into consideration... but have to be careful when making missions about Ireland well any war becasue people could be very offeneded anyway like noel is saying making missions/campaigns to do with the conflicts over in Ireland i would suppose a mission like bloody Sunday what ever it was will be taking heavily offensive by many people as that was what started it all.

Cplme out for now

[Messiah]

I find this post extremely distressing and offensive....the ongoing Northern Ireland conflict has resulted in numerous British and Irish lives being taken, which is deeply upsetting for all families and friends involved....to see it described as "God if somebody made this I would have a great time" and "recreating bloody sunday would be a challenge - good fun (to make)" - this is insulting and distressing to all those involved in the conflict....I take a firmly neutral stance on the whole affair, but I wish to see the situation defused as peacefully and satisfactorally as possible. By making out that the IRA hide out in remote farmhouses and take people hostage, and that the entirety of Northern Island is a combat zone with daily battles belies the fact that serious work is being done to remedy the situation, and certainly gives the wrong impression about Ireland as a country...

and i find that insulting...

i dont think i made out they hide out in farmhouses - but since i have studied the NI conflict for 2 years now, i think i know what im talking about... of all the hostages taken by the IRA and the other sects in NI, many were found dead or alive in remote farmhouses just outside of Belfast.

NI isnt a whole land of conflict - and its a very beautiful and lovely place - ive been - the fact that some parts of it can be dangerous and the sectarian violence that occurs does not bode well for its future - and as for shouting abuse at 9 year old school girls on their way to school - now thats sick.

and not how i wrote (to make) - i wrote that in cos i could see some1 come crying abgout how bloody sunday was a terrible event - and it was - but i do not condone what happened or believe it was right - but THIS IS A GAME - dont take things so seriously.

and certainly gives the wrong impression about Ireland as a country...

interesting - ireland is nothing to do with Northern ireland as it happens - so how does this reflect on ireland? - except many of the republicans do drive over from Ireland to help their northern friends cause havoc - and hence why the british army set up road checkpoints in and out of NI.

sorry, but dont start accusing me of things i never said or meant - i know a lot about the NI conflict - and how some1 making some recreation of NI, can in no probable way insult or distress any1 - i dont see vietnam vets complaining - this is just a game, thats all it is, all missions created (well nearly all) are pure fiction - and if based on real events i would like to think people would have the common courtesy not to use the real names.

[Noel_From_Ireland]

Sorry but im sick of the "we cant do this because the IRA are this and the British are that" thats not good enough, what about every other war that ever happened. An awfull lot of IRA men, British soldiers and civilians did die in the war, but look at ow many people died in every other war and that includes civilians.

What I am talking about here is small scale engagements where tactics mean absolutly EVERYTHING! What I dont want to see is the whole idea of planting 29 bombs in belfast and detonating them all...



Mission ideas (based on real life events)

Mountjoy Prison (PIRA) - You will lead a group of PIRA men, in a helechoper, land in the prison and rescue the 3 enprisoned comrades then escape to the evacuation point where these 3 volunteers will be escorted via car to such and such a place. (that really happend.)

Loughgall (SAS) - After the continous destruction of RUC and British Army barracks carried out by the PIRA, the SAS will lay in ambush for the IRA as they blow up the next barracks, the IRA will come with a diggor (with a bomb in the front) (that really happened)

Crossmaglen (PIRA) - You will control the notorious Armagh Sniper, and fire upon a British footpatrol, then escape. (that did happen, just not all in the one go)

Chase (RUC) - you will chase 2 PIRA men, they are in a car, you are in the RUC jeep, Ram the car untill it no longer functions and arrest the suspects, get them before they cross the border (probably happened every bloody day for 30 years)

These kind of ideas people, not bloody mast devastation and insanity.

[Noel_From_Ireland]

skaven, I havent said anything political, so dont bother your backside accusing me of it. I am here to see if this addon can be made, not to stir up trouble. As for you messiah, when I said those rucksacks, I meant the ones that they hold those large CB radio thingys in. When you say they dont patrol that much, you obviously havent lived here, or your tutors been tutoring you incorrectly. I have lived here 19 years of my 19 year life, nowadays, they dont patrol as much because the ceasefire has been declared, when I was growing up, they patroled everywhere, everyday and at any time, the reason I know, is because I was frightened to death of them, because they used to hide up my trees, because they used to hide on top of my garage and because they used to hide in my garden and because they used to hide behind our pillers. The SAS was involved quiet alot, and even 1 or 2 of them were killed, one being a captain and the other im not sure.

Now.. what I wish to know is..

Can the uniforms for the PIRA be made? anyone up for it?
Can the RUC be made?
What about the RUC landrover?
The Diggers?

[Josef]

In theoty?

YES! they can, just not by some fool like me who barely know how to use a script

[Messiah]

As for you messiah, when I said those rucksacks, I meant the ones that they hold those large CB radio thingys in. When you say they dont patrol that much, you obviously havent lived here, or your tutors been tutoring you incorrectly. I have lived here 19 years of my 19 year life

thats what you said... now heres what i said... and quote me on THIS

and the rucksacks are called bergans, and they didnt use them much in NI - not much hiking to do and so they didnt need to take all their 3rd line equipment (tents, extra clothes, rat packs) - they just needed webbings and ammo.

i was talking about the big ass bergans - and they dont use them (much) in NI - as for patrols - i never said patrols - i said hiking, as in long haul, 18km + stuff... not patroling the streets, which, like you said, they did on a daily occurance a while back - now its the police - in their sweet armoured landies...

the police were renamed recently from the Ulster Constabulary, to the NI Police

umm, what are they called now? this one is really hacking at me.

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anyways - on topic - those missions are great ones - some good examples there - i like the prison one, be good fun to chopper in, do some good CQB and then leave - also running street battles would be fun.

the paras are being made by the uk forces team - the sas too, but in cammo 51 - and not civilian - they used to call the SAS the 'mexican bandits' because they grew their hair long and moustaches to fit in with the locals - although never a beard, as this compromises the gas masks.

this sounds like a great mod - love to play running street battles etc - something i think the game lacks - also you could put some plain old guard duty stuff - like rush to a scene of a bomb, and keep the locals back and generally be on guard.

nice idea Noel :thumbsup:

[Noel_From_Ireland]

Thanks for the correction messiah ^_^ and sorry for the outburst of anger all but this post went nuts.

now back to the mod.

Unfortunatly, I cant "really" contribute much to such a mod, what I can do however... is provide real life past occurances so that people wont blow the mod clean out of realism.

I can sortof show what rebels might have looked like plus what they might have looked like when on a special occasion, such as a funeral. Bare in mind that they didnt really wear army clothing in the cities, since this would have them compromised, instead they would have wore, civil clothing with balaclava. During a special occasion such as a funeral for example, then they would wear a full battle dress this includes balaclava (in order to hide identity) and Black gloves and Berray.

I can also provide all the music for things like intros.. I can also cut them and format them to your own specified quality, lenght and format. The songs themselve's. I will handpick to ensure they are rather equal and non-offensive.

Well this is what I can provide, the question remains wether or not your all going to fight over whats right and whats wrong, wars not right period, it doesnt matter where it occurs and how it started and how it ended, its still war and its still not right.

It would require a bit of brains to make something like this and it also brings a new requirement to the whole style of mission designing, this meaning, the missions would have to be extreamly compact, rather than full map. Some items would diffinatly have to be introduced, this would include the equipment I mentioned in the first message. New cities, might not have to be made, instead perhaps an extension on some of them, with perhaps some simple, non-enterable buildings put in. British / RUC barracks might not need to be entered either since there are one or two places on the map that look very much like them.

Its up to yourselves, I thought it was a good idea.  ;D

[Sefe]

Guys, leave the politics aside. This is an OFP editing related forum and as such we don't discuss political issues here (except in POLWAR). I think everyone wants a peaceful solution to this conflict (any conflict in the world) but this is not the right place for debates like that. There are ongoing projects about Desert Storm, Vietnam, WWII etc. During all of those wars people died and it it is tragic that we are still fighting wars, yet we allow OFP-editing related discussions about those topics simply because we keep our discussions free from politics. If you want to discuss the Northern Ireand conflict, use POLWAR.

This thread however is purely editing related and I would appreciate if I wouldn't find any politcs-related posts in this thread anymore.

Thanks.

[Rhino]

OFP is a conflict simulation.  The simulation disregards all politics and just "recreates" the conflict. There is nothing funny nor glamorous about real war nor real death nor real terrorism, nor real invasion.

Northern Ireland has a conflict. Why not simulate it. it's uniqu and would make for an interesting game. Much of OFP simulates many things that happen in NI everyday.  

I've seen people create missions with executions, unarmed civilians getting killed, and you know darn well most of us "execute" wounded soldiers IN THE GAME.  So how about we leave politics, religion, morality out of this forum and try and remember, it's just a game and not a statement.

  While you're at it...how about making a "Rodney King Riot" add on pack?  Game over if the 4 cops get killed before the city erupts in a billion dollar riot.



Do I hate cops? nope. Was I there? yes. Did I pull weapons on a few civilians myself. Yes. Did I shoot anyone? Nope. But in a OFP world. the National Guard, Marine Corps and 82nd Airborne would be killing half of LA.

not that that would be  a bad thing............    

Peace, love and understanding......

Rhino

[Lt_Phoenix]

I think Noel_From_Ireland ideas are good, and deserve to be heard like everyone elses. This is after all the addon IDEAS section

What I like about OFP, is the fact that you can add whatever you like to the game.
If someone wants to make any of the addons Noel_From_Ireland suggested, then I'm not going to make a fuss. (in fact I'll download them too if the are any good)

If you don't like the addons, don't download them!

Some more addon suggestions :

14th Intelligence Squadron operatives + Q cars (west)
Gazelle choppers for surveilance
Some descent police addons
SAS snatch teams

[Messiah]

the gazelle is being made as we speak  

[Gravedigga]

I'm sorry - I probably didn't explain myself properly.....I don't mind the idea, and I have no desire to dent anyone's pride....I simply felt that the way the conflict was being described could have been done with slightly more tactful language.....

[Noel_From_Ireland]

I would just like to say that in no way, am I bigoted or sectarian, and I wish for you lot to understand that.

Gazzells + lynx choppers are todays most popular choppers in the Northern Irish skys. Previously it was the westland wessexs but  it was replaced probably because of old age and I havent saw them in a few years (that verifies to me they are no longer used), nevertheless, a good chopper in its day, very practicle and had the ability to hold a squad of men.
 It would be great if somebody took into consideration making this chopper at some point.

I think somebody had mentioned earlier that armilites (etc) were a bit overboard and that it would be more like handguns?

Shipments of AR-15 armilites where shipped from america curtesy of Irish sympathizers working as caterers on some swanky cruiser (docked in UK) guns where then transported to Belfast. That operation was masterminded by the Belfast Brigade of the IRA a very very long time ago. So yes, armilites where indeed in use, and most of them had stamped on them "property of the United States Army"

Other sophisticated weaponary such as RPGs had apparantly been bought from libyia. The IRA attempted to buy SAM's from America but were caught in an FBI sting, however, its been said before that there is a rather large possibility that the IRA got SAM's from Libyia, its also debatable wether or not that these are operational.

Morters were used often (attack on 10 downing street as an example) the morters where homemade and the ammo packed with gelagonite (i think)


^^^^^^ all the above was going on during the war and not after ^^^^^

it was only in the very early stages of the PIRA that only very basic weapons where in use, such as shotguns, 22 Rifles, Pistols, and a selection of very poor machine guns.

Am I some kind of IRA man? of course not

This was all learned from a 6 chapter documetary called "The IRA and Sinn Fein" its a very good documentary and is accompanied with other documentarys about the other armies in that war. I recommend watching it, contact the BBC and they can sell it I think.

[Lt_Phoenix]

Nice to see that thing are calming down a bit  

I believe 2 of the Falklands Mods ( http://www.flashpoint1982.co.uk/ & http://malvinas.cazadoresdemonte.com.ar/ ) are making some british choppers like Lynx, Sea King, Wessex, Gazelle and Puma. They won't be ready for a while though.

More addon ideas :

Civilian emergency services (police, ambulance and fire)
Civilian boats (for arms smugling)
Hostile civilians (added to East side and sometimes armed, to make patrols through unfriendly areas a bit more exiting)

[vade_101]

if people are interested in reading about the conflict in NI I would also reccomend Peter Taylors series of books (Provos, Loyalists and Brits) as they contain a wealth of information on the troubles. And for a book on what is IMO, the most "suitable" area for flashpoint mod i'd recommend "Bandit Country: The IRA and South Armagh" by Toby Harnden.

[Phantom]

just so you know, the SAS had a minimal job in intel gathering. a lot of the men in the SAS and SBS were put into 13th Intel. They were trained up, sent in, developed code's, followed the baddie's, lot's of interesting stuff. Then they passed the info on to base where it was decided if action should be made. Then usually the SAS or SBS were sent in to ambush someone. This is not to say that it was only 13th Intel that did this work, but they did the majority. Read a book called First Into Action by Duncan Falconer to find out lot's on interesting stuff about it. It say's it's about his life in the SBS, more of his time in the 13th Intel.

[aurek]

the police were renamed recently from the Ulster Constabulary, to the NI Police

umm, what are they called now? this one is really hacking at me.

They're called the police service of Nothern Ireland. ( donno how its abbreviated) And the RUC was not just renamed it was dissolved. As the RUC, or Royal Ulster Constabulary. Was set up by England, as an English police force, policing an English territory. Thus obviously the republicans hated them. Eventually they decided that if the police was to be able to ever do its job without constantly being hated and attacked by republicans or they're supporters. Thus they were (recently) dissolved and the police service of northern Ireland was formed. A service that could be accepted by both sides and thus get on with policing.

As a side note the IRA did have a large number of heavy weapons including:
Assault rifles of various types, Hk-psg's, Laws, Rpg's, M249 light machineguns and proper infantry mortars. Though none were ever used and most are being decommissioned now.  

[Messiah]

yeah, i know the stuff behind the change - ive followed it very closey - just the name was slipping me...

and yeah, kinda of a truce police force - although its still a UK territory and the police are still UK police - as in they are the police of NI, which is the UK - although, until the recent stalmont problems (IRA spies etc - sinn fein thrown out, paddy ashdown thrown out etc) the police were that governments police (as the met police is the UK governments police) but still, it is all run by the same people  

[Skaven]

Guys, addons relating stuff, not political please  

[Noel_From_Ireland]

As a side note the IRA did have a large number of heavy weapons including:
Assault rifles of various types, Hk-psg's, Laws, Rpg's, M249 light machineguns and proper infantry mortars. Though none were ever used and most are being decommissioned now.  

Rpgs where used, this is why theres a place in Belfast called RPG avenue when a British "Pig" got wiped out there, and yes there is actually a street sign lol Good idea for a level

Heavy machine guns where also in action, one in particular being that occasion when the IRA clamped a massive H-machine gun on the back of a pickup truck, then straffed a barracks with it (causing massive structural damage to the walls) but were then ambushed by the SAS at a bridge when they where dissasembling the big gun good idea for a level I cant remember the name of the Bridge, the 3 IRA men where killed.

Morters where also in use, but homemade, an example being the attack on 10 downing street (3 morters - 3 misses - 1 in the backgarden) although ya couldnt make that into a level unless of course somebody releases a nice city map (hint hint)

So to put ya straight, they were used, but they didnt make the news as much as some of the "IRA Spectaculars"

truth is, I dont reckon folks living outside the Island of Ireland hear the magority of occurances during the conflict, only the spectaculars,

[Lt_Phoenix]

Rpgs where used, this is why theres a place in Belfast called RPG avenue when a British "Pig" got wiped out there, and yes there is actually a street sign lol Good idea for a level

British "Pig" (or armoured pig) = Armoured car
Just in case somebody took it the wrong way and got offended.

Is 13th intel and 14 intel squadron the same, just different numbers?

[Lt_Phoenix]

OK here's a list of addon requests for an N.I. simulation

14th intell company operatives (civilians added to west, with green security forces armband and armed with mp5's + Browning High power handguns)

PIRA (civilians added to east, with balaclavas and a wide range of weapons)

Armed police

Armourd cars and Landrovers

Some decent brit choppers

Emergency services (Fire, Police and Ambulance)

Anything left out?

[sgt-franko]

this is obviously an old thread, but did anyone actually get around to working on an addon for "IRA" like units?
If so id like to know as i have a campaign in mind for such a unit.
PLEASE NO POLITICS..
Ive read the earlier posts in January am would like some constructive thoughts on the addon idea
I already know about "the troubles".

sgt-franko

[swift88]

im considering to build the lynx......... the puma and wessex helicopters would be good, because they where al invloved in Heliops in N.I including eagle patrol, which flew ahead of another road block to corner the  "terrorists" and be deployed very quickly........ LOL the closet thing to a tank deployed was the humber tank............

[Noel_From_Ireland]

Hello, I was the one that founded this thread because I thought it would be very interesting. I cant make stuff it was just an idea that I wanted to share with the people here. Ive had some real life difficulties and so havent been around alot.

Swift it would be great if you started to build those models. In my lifetime I have spotted all these choppers and I have taken other things from documented materials on the troubles:


-= Choppers =-

Westland Wessex(Used for Patrols and transport) (not active no mores)
Gazelle (Used for Patrols and still are for that matter)
Puma (Transport and still active to this day)
Lynx (Patrols)
Civ Helechopter (PIRA liberated one in order to retrieve its P.O.W'S from a jail in the republic of ireland - the mission succeeded)

-= APCS and other land vehicals =-

Saracen (nick named "The Pig")    (Disconinued 1990+ ?)
Armoured Landrover (Green | British Army)
Armoured Landrover (Grey | Royal Ulster Constabulary)
Year 2000+ Armoured Landrover (White | Police Service of Northern Ireland)
Pick Up Truck with Rear Mounted Heavy Machine Gun (PIRA)
Van with Internal Rear Mounted Heavy Machine Gun (PIRA) (used in Co.Derry)
1960 ~ 1993 Civ Cars


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Judging by the Progress of Online OFP maps - editing techniques have really got very far indeed. It now appears to be possible to completly remake maps and there building locations and I dont see why villages and citys in the North of Ireland could not be re-made on the OFP maps and They wouldnt even need to be accurate.

If they were to be made they would need to be big but tightly built towns and stuff because the Provos wouldnt fight out in open areas unless you count Crossmaglen and other nightmare locations that proved impossible for the British Army to operate in.  

The Uniforms still need to be made and this would include:

RUC uniform/s
British Army uniform/s
Uniforms for the rebels: (they all weared different stuff I bet)
-Balaclava
-Camo Top
-Blue Jeans
-Black Berry - but only if your gonna make an IRA Guard of Honour uni.
SAS uniforms
Civilian Uniforms

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There ya go - maybe somebody will have a go at making it someday, you have ripped the backside of it when it comes to other wars so why not try this regardless of the fact that half of you are upset on the subject.

I can supply the music for the mish's - Im from here afterall. I must know and have about a thousand songs about the troubles:

- Some songs about troubles and how awfull it is.
- Some about the IRA and its history
- Some about the people
- Some about Ireland and its history in general.


Good Luck
Noel Craig

[Lt_Phoenix]

A Puma with Brit camo and markings is definately needed since it seems that no Mods are going to be making it. The Puma was'nt used by the Brits in the Falklands, so I doubt that the " Falklands Mods will be using any time and energy on it, and I doubt that UKF will be making due to them focusing on infantry, vehicles and tanks. (From what I've gathered).

MLV Mod (Campana Malvinas) made some choppers and troops for their last demo release. You can search the official forums for them. Only problem, is that they're added to the East side. I'v edited the configs for my own use, but can send them by e-mail if anyone wants them.

I made some civvy IRA blokes a while back for my own use (basicly BIS civilians with BIS weapons and added to East). I also made some 14th intell blokes too (Man 5+6 with all kinds of small arms made by SJB, Crime City Mod and others). If anyones interested, I could send them by e-mail too.

[Bruce Banner]

I served in Belfast and lost friends on the island. I am not offended in any way by this subject and think it would be good for both the community to understand more about the troubles and good to play out missions within the game.

[swift88]

lucky enough, the puma was used in green camo for the gulf so i dont have to worry about that....

[Bruce Banner]

You could ask those nice French chaps if a re-texture of the one they released is possable?

[bigdog632]

HEY!

How about finally making some molotov cocktails?

Could use a modified napalm script, and some new nades that looked like bottles...

amen

[swift88]

you also forgot the saxon apc which was used in N.I

[gundam007]

Even though the conflict does not directly affect me over here in america, and I have not heard of the many tragedies, I want to hear its story. I am too young to have heard of the major combat, but a mod would honor and represent everything that happened in the conflict
ps. was that apc that is on fire bombed?

[Bruce Banner]

 saxon

[swift88]

thats is where all the petrol bombs have been thrown (NI wasnt the best option in terms of posts)



NO BIG problems........ OMAGH bombings was of the bad ones (IRA)........................ Bloody friday being another....... I think it would be distressing to include these events, but i feel that it should be remeber in in kind of fictional way in comparision to its real aspect, only making made-up missions, so the public dont feel too distressed............
i would say its more of a civil war, with them throwing stones at us and petrol bombs (apart from the IRA which had guns and big ones at that) instead of heavy combat

[swift88]

cough ---------
[img removed]saxon.jpg[/img]
just started
dont forget the SLR and the riot gear.........
ps. if some-one started a mod based on N.I give me a shout

[sgt-franko]

ok well it seems theres enough interest to actually start on this IRA mod so lets get down to it.

in the interim\
the "gimbal tossers" would make good stone throwers
the BIB PARAS are good models of the UK paras
The ASF terrorists look very IRA like with balaclavas and such.
all we need is the saracens and a wessex or 2

ill have a go at a short para patrol with a sniper  or similar and stick it up here when its done.
lookk towards the end of the week
perhaps those interested could join together in IRC one evening/morning to discuss it etc.

sgt-franko

[swift88]

sounds good...............saracen already constructed and ready for texturing.........wessex not far off from developing, however i dont want my models building up, (like in the past for myself) just need to build a turret and its ready for texturing
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[swift88]

im really getting into this......... errrrrrrr we need some cars too ....... like the old fords etc which would be lurking about then, as well as the houses with the loyalist paintings and IRA paintings on the houses as well as these observations posts..................

[Dermax]

Gentlemen,

I wish I could have seen this thread earlier! It just so happens that there are a group of us creating a MOD entitled "The Patriot Game". We'll be starting from scratch and doing big things with it.

I don't know how far you all are in your MODs and such, but I would welcome you to come over the fold and join us in "The Patriot Game". Our MOD will be from the Irish side and will be fictional in that, although set in modern times, it will have the 'flavor' of the old time revolutions... Collins, Connoly, ect. back in '16.

If your MOD would want a more realistic portrayal of the conflict and you wouldn't want to give that up, I'm sure we can work together and share some files and such. Let me know... contact me via PM and let's see where this goes.

Michael

[swift88]

i would like to see what you boys are doing........... im not a part of this other mod, but im intressted

[Dermax]

Well mate, I'd love to see some more of your work. It looks quite nice even in those early stages. Right now we haven't got too much ready becuase we've had to redo some of our IRA stuff as it got outdated.

We'll keep chugging away on our end and you keep driving at those vehicles of yours.

What I would like is if someone had a list of the vehicles used in Northern Ireland in current times... for example the Saxon, the Warrior, ect.

Hope to hear more from you soon and keep working on those vehicles!

Michael

[swift88]

errrrrrr no tracked vehicles where invloved in Northern ireland apart from diggers.............. only wheeled vehicles like the saracen, saxon and a few others served in Northern Ireland......... mostly landrovers and helicopters and observation posts after that

[swift88]

i would like to see some SAS stuff being portrayed in the mod, with thier hudge rucksucks......... and their SLRs

[Dermax]

The SAS will be making an appearence, along with the police force, and the British army regulars.