I have read the tutorial, and I have re-read it about 6 times. I had Visitor and Bulsozer working together aomewhat for a while (the textures would not display properly in Buldozer) but then I must have have changed something and now they don't work together at all. I am ready to attempt that I am the dummest old guy on the block. With over 40 years of computer experience it shouldn't be this tough. At this point I think I will clean out all of the stuff I have downloaded and download everything again and start at the beginning of the tutorial. I do appreciate your help. I now purpose to get this working, regardless of how long it takes me. But I would still like to get my .ase file into something that WRPEdit will import.