Realistic bullet holes

[penguinman]

could sombody make a particle that looks like a hole in a human made from a bullet, and then when sombody fires a gun a script finds the exact place the bullet stoped and pastes the particle there. it should be a 2d particle that shows you the same side always. that would make more realic wounds

thanks

[Blanco]

Hmm, that particle have to follow the unit, doesn't this require a fast loop?

[dmakatra]

Way too laggy, and won't look good either. Better to have hidden sections in the models instead.

:beat: *Gets Shot* :beat:

[DBR_ONIX]

If you have someting like...
Inside guy/What you see when hit > |   Normal body    > |
                                                           | hiddenSelection > |

Then, when hit, you hide the normal body bit
- Ben

[RujiK]

2D wound on units would look very lame, For when you walk around him OFTEN the wound would partitally go in the unit, thus making him look cured almost.

I would suggest OFPEC_Blood addon, it looks much better then a 2D wound, although It wont add textures on units.

[penguinman]

well that just makes blood squirt, i wanted a bullet hole

[Nemesis6]

Which, unfortunatly, is impossible in OFP.

[dmakatra]

2D wound on units would look very lame, For when you walk around him OFTEN the wound would partitally go in the unit, thus making him look cured almost.

I would suggest OFPEC_Blood addon, it looks much better then a 2D wound, although It wont add textures on units.

Dude, the official wounds are 2D.

It could be very much possible in an addon. Very CPU demanding though.

[Roni]

Hi There

I'm now teaching myself particle drops after years of avoiding them.  I don't know all of the variables in that massive array but there is ONE that might fit the bill - the last one.  It's called "Object" and according to the comref it's the "Object to bind this particle to".  Any guesses what this means ?

I just finished making a pretty cool (if I do say so myself) fire effect for a downed aircraft.  I'm using 3D particles (natch !) but I found that 3D particles can create a pretty nifty 2D effect.  If you place it right in the middle of the object and make it just big enough then the bits that stick out look kind of like a decal - there's your 2D effect (maybe).

Alternatively, I'm sure that there must be some way of accessing all of those wound BMP's in the master config.  This is beyond my knowledge (for now !) but it might solve your problem . . .

Cheers



roni

[bdfy1]

There are some sections in original config.cpp ver >1.91 that you should look at.

class CraterOnVehicle
{
model="";
simulation="CraterOnVehicle";

If you add model it will be placed on every vehicle or man when hit.

class Crater
{
model="";
simulation="Crater";
};

This option create crater on objects or house walls.
This info was first posted here ( russian ) not by me

I heard that there some realistic effects in 2k3 mod. i.e realistic wounds, shooting off body parts  etc . Is that true ? Mod  is too big for me to download

[Roni]

That looks like it.

But what did you mean when you said "If you add model . . ." ?  How do you use this in game without having to create a special addon ?

[bdfy1]

model="<path to any model you like>";
you can insert any model there. Try nabojnice (it's shell ) just for example.
And search for names of standart BIS models
It's easy to create custom bullet wound plave it in addon and use  model="<\addon_name\modelname>
But note : it' cause both(!) vehicles and people there will be the same crater

And I didn't use it yet
I just post info from russian site here

[Planck]

Those are part of the cfgNonAIVehicles section of the game config.

I think it defines the crater effects.....for an example try:

cr = "Crater" createvehicle getpos [someposition]

or

cr = "CraterOnVehicle" createvehicle getpos [someposition]


Planck

[Roni]

Ah, so it is an addon - I thought so.  No big deal, you just have to remember that you have the addon running in your version of the game.

I realised years ago that you could do all sorts of wierd things with addons.  For instance, since an addon can be just a config, and since a config can run scripts, you could make an addon that took away everyone's weapons at the start of the mission.

This might not be very useful    but you could do useful stuff instead, such as replace in game soundeffects, change all recoils etc.
It's all good !



roni

[penguinman]

roni, do you think you could make just a 2d particle thats just red andscript it so it pastes it in the place where the bullet hits.

the particle should be easy but i think the script might be harder

thanks

[Roni]

I'll give t a try.   :-\

I do know that the standard "body" model has certain predefined areas that you can refer to, such as head, body, arms and kegs.  Of course, all of these are named in Czech and I'm not sure if you can refer to them in scripting (rather than in a config).

As I said - I'll see what i can do.

Cheers



roni

[bdfy1]

Roni
Check "dammaged" Eventhandler - it can return what part of body is hitted Tutorial is in the editor depot.

[Roni]

Thanks for the reminder.  I knew that I could get the part hitted   but I'm not sure if you can then use that to paste a decal.

On the plus side there is hope to just plain faking it.  If my event handler tells me that (say) the character's arm was hit then I could design a position offset (_xPos + 0.2, _yPos + 0.1, _zPos + 1.5 ) and a fast loop to keep the decal in place.

I've just finished a smoke script for a cessna and even though the loop goes as fast as it can (delay of 0.01 seconds between cycles) it still shows "puffs" rather than a continuous stream once the plane speed goes above 200 kph or so.

Of course for a player running no faster than 12 kph this should not be too much of a problem !    ;D

I'll try to rig up something tonight (next 6-8 hours)


cheers



roni


 

[penguinman]

is it working?

[Roni]

Hello All

Okay, after four weeks of stuffing around with drop particles, workarounds and fudges I can conclusively say - this won't work !   :'(

It seems that even if a particle is tied to an object it doesn't stay with the object, it just takes on the objects position, velocity vector and facing at inception.  After that it's on its own.  

To make matters worse, the "drop" command returns nothing so you can't assign it and move it along with the person.  You could conceivably create particles VERY fast and have them live for a fraction of a second but if the unit moves too fast its "decal" tends to lag behind.  This is okay if you want the particle to look randomly uneven but bad otherwise.

On the plus side, if anyone is looking for a spurting blood wound then I'm with sure a few tweaks I could make what you're looking for !

Cheers



Rory