eurgh theres not point trying anymore i might as well use the stanley knife like i planned all along, thanks for fueling my motive. For future reference dont reply to retards you just encourage their stupidity, and get a life. Not that i can really talk actually i have no life and no freinds but not that you care really. Yes i shall try and fight my dyspraxia obiously i cannot explain myself to your higher intelligence as much as i would like to, maybe if i spend more time explaining myself you can get the message, it is a good idea but i just cant explain all the details. Meh i'll learn to program and make my idea and then sell it for millions, highly unlikely really :-\