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Pipski

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Crop sprayer
« on: 06 Jan 2004, 20:18:03 »
I don't yet have the know-how to put this idea into practise, but a script that could simulate spray tanks on aircraft could be useful for a mission idea I've had.  I'm not actually talking about crop dusting but about CBW dissemination (particularly of chemicals).  What would be even better would be if anyone in the vicinity of the spraying a certain amount of time later (the exact amount of time varying relative to the altitude of the aircraft when spraying occurred) then suffers fits, paralysis and death (forced prone, injured arms for the wobble) over the space of 60 seconds odd unless they can use an adrenaline shot (by getting to a med / 1st aid post maybe) in which case recovery over the space of another 60 seconds is possible.  Therefore simulating sarin, soman, tabun or VX.

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Re:Crop sprayer
« Reply #1 on: 06 Jan 2004, 20:45:49 »
I may be making a script that does that (possibly) if I work together with migebuff on a chemical weapons pack.

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Re:Crop sprayer
« Reply #2 on: 06 Jan 2004, 21:39:06 »
Crop sprayers will be in the Nightstalker Mod :) .
« Last Edit: 06 Jan 2004, 21:39:26 by m21man »

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« Reply #3 on: 12 Jan 2004, 07:08:01 »
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unless they can use an adrenaline shot (by getting to a med / 1st aid post maybe) in which case recovery over the space of another 60 seconds is possible

Well, really every soldier carries his/her own set of atropine needles, so there would be no need to get to a medic.
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Re:Crop sprayer
« Reply #4 on: 14 Jan 2004, 06:48:09 »
I don't think all soldiers carry atropine needles. Only soldier in a high risk areas or jobs would have it(special forces come to mind). Also you would not have time to get a needle of atropine from the first aid tent. It needs to be injected in seconds. More than likely the only way a normal soldier would know if they were around bio- or chemical weapons is when some or all the group start reacting to the agent. Then it is to late. That is why the military sends advance testing vehicals ahead of soldier if they suspect there is a possible bio or chemical agent.
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« Reply #5 on: 14 Jan 2004, 07:20:01 »
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I don't think all soldiers carry atropine needles. Only soldier in a high risk areas or jobs would have it(special forces come to mind).

   Yes, they all carry atropine (in the form of NAAK kits), just like they all carry gasmasks. Now of course that only applies to situations where the use of chemical/bioligical weapons is possible/likely, such as in a wartime environment. For example, all of the soldiers and marines in the recent Iraq war carried gasmasks and atropine needles (not sure if they still do, but its possible). That is, ALL of the forces, not just those on the frontlines. Half my reserve unit ran supply ops during the war (not me though  :-[ ), and they all had gasmasks and atropine, as well as full protective MOPP suits.

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Also you would not have time to get a needle of atropine from the first aid tent. It needs to be injected in seconds.

Which is why they all carry the injections individually.

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More than likely the only way a normal soldier would know if they were around bio- or chemical weapons is when some or all the group start reacting to the agent.


  Or if they see an aircraft make a low pass overhead (like a crop sprayer), or if they see incoming shells that don't explode. Also, there is a certain detector tape (can't remember the name--its "m" followed by some number :P ) that is strapped around sleeves/whatever, which changes color when it comes in contact with certain agents.
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Re:Crop sprayer
« Reply #6 on: 14 Jan 2004, 20:44:14 »
You can already turn any plane inteh game into a "crop sprayer" with the drop  command in resistance.  It would require an addon however to give the plane tanks so it looks like its storing the chemical its dropping.  But if you want to do a good midway solution Id script a particle array script.

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« Reply #7 on: 15 Jan 2004, 06:45:21 »
I meant troops in Iraq when I said High risk, but troops on the US bases for the most part don't carry them all the time. Also some toxic agents can be sparyed in advane of troops and they might not know it till their indicator turned colors which can be to late. Atropine is not 100% affective either. Comabt troops who carry the NAAK kit have three autoinjectors with 2 mg of atropine each. Test have show that it may require 20-40 mg of atropine to counter never gas exposure. In fact the affect of atropine itself can kill or adversely affect the health of a soldier. Even if the soldiers had advanced warning and injected themselves before the nerve agent could kill them the agent might still be around after the atropine wears off. The only real prevention of being exposed to these agents is to wear full protection.

I also tried to stressed that the military sends special APC that test for agents ahead of troops if they suspect some kind of chemicals. I know that was the case in the First Gulf War.

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« Reply #8 on: 15 Jan 2004, 08:54:25 »
Agreed.  :)

However, I do think it would be cool to see a Camel do a flyby and drop some particles over some troops, killing them all. Maybe some alternate history for the Afganistan or Iraq war.  8)
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Pipski

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« Reply #9 on: 16 Jan 2004, 12:21:32 »
D'oh, I meant atropine, not adrenaline!  In fact although atropine does need to be injected pretty much immediately (as someone mentioned), its success is very far from guaranteed depending upon the amount of exposure.  Also, to prevent fitting and permanent brain damage troops should ideally knock back 5-10mg diazepam about half an hour before exposure.  But, given the unlikely nature of this atropine is better than nothing.

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Re:Crop sprayer
« Reply #10 on: 20 Jun 2004, 19:37:12 »
I can create a crop sprayer type effect, but I would have to use green smokeshells. The smokeshells would be dropped from the plane, then the nearest object that is a certain distance away from the smokeshell would then be killed. And for vehicles, the driver, gunner, and commander will be killed. I did a similar thing, with my toxic scud script that I posted not 5 hours ago.

If you need it, I could post the crop sprayer script here when I'm done.