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how do i exit flashpoint?
« on: 18 Jan 2004, 17:58:33 »
Bare with me, this isn't a dumb joke.

Is there any string or command that will exit flashpoint from IN the game, via a script etc.  ???

Or failing that, has anyone ever run into a seris of commands that will crash the game and exit back to windows - with no explanation whatsoever from the game or windows,

Pls reply

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« Last Edit: 18 Jan 2004, 17:59:23 by bigcheese »

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #1 on: 18 Jan 2004, 18:05:14 »
Why the **** do you wanna do that?

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #2 on: 18 Jan 2004, 18:05:49 »
No.......but these things can happen when a mission encounters problems like missing addons or badly configured addons.

Or the game runs into a fatal system error or no memory.


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« Last Edit: 18 Jan 2004, 18:06:54 by Planck »
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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #3 on: 18 Jan 2004, 18:25:19 »
As The real Armstrong so delicately put it, why do you want to be able to exit flashpoint with a command.

I mean thats why good old Mr Gates invented the 'Alt'  'F4' combination.

However, like i always say, whatever floats ya boat, so if I run across it, I will tell ya

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #4 on: 18 Jan 2004, 18:39:24 »
Sry, maybe i didnt make it clear enough

I'm making a mission at the moment, basicly this is how it goes

The player is set an objective,
and upon failing it (if he/she does) the the game will terminate with some special effects etc

Unfortunatly the other members of my group have forbiden me to disclose any more info, but TRUST me, i know it sounds crap, and a pain in the arse having to load it all up again and start again, but the player wont want to. - it is realy cool to watch. but at the moment we just have to alt-f4 it every time in the previews.

So if any one knows, maybe some clever person with experience in computer programing how it can be done, (Maybe based on how flashpoint exits, when clicking exit on the main menu), pls reply  

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #5 on: 18 Jan 2004, 18:52:52 »
Well I think its a terrible idea, but Im not one to not spead the knowledge.

The only way I can think of doing it is creating a drop particle script that loops for ever, it will eventually eat up all the computers memory and crash flashpoint.

I say again though;  Worst idea ever.

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #6 on: 18 Jan 2004, 19:22:35 »
ok i probably shouldn't be telling u this, but here we go:

If u mess around with global variables long enough u will eventualy find one BIS already used, messing around with these can cause conflicts ant thus CTD's.

i'm not gonna explain it in detail, cause i'm not sure if i like what ur doing. but this info should be enough.
Get those missions out there you morons!

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #7 on: 18 Jan 2004, 20:08:56 »
[icarus_uk] believe me i had the exact same reaction as you, if not worse, when the rest of the group told me what would happen. (I joined half way through), i thought they were just having a joke, but when jack (the project leader) showed me, i realy opened up my mind,

It dosen't contain any gore or pornography, or anything like that, but it makes you think...

I wish i could tell you more, but i can't even tell you the project name.

Sry...

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #8 on: 18 Jan 2004, 20:46:46 »
Hey man, if the game crashes I'm not gonna play that mission, you might need to do some stuff with the core gamefiles(like MachoMan suggested)and screw every1s OFP up, I suggest you find some other way.

Using a lot of memory till it crashes can cause severe damage to your comp, it might not only crash your OFP, it might crash your comp as well.

The only "peaceful" crash I can think of must be a description.ext problem. The problem with this is that it'll crash as soon as you start the game.

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #9 on: 18 Jan 2004, 21:35:43 »
Look bigcheese,

No one here is against you, its just your making it very hard for us to understand why you want to crash the game,

As far as were concerned there is no reason whatsoever why any one would want to quit back into windows as a consequence to a mission!

Maybe if you told us more we could understand, but if the mission is as you say it is then you got me curious.

However the guys are right, a forced crash due to a program error can cause damage to ANY active file running at the same time, game crashes have been known to crash entire operating systems unintentionally - so I don't think should be messing around with it, and defiantly don't distribute it! – Unless you can secure an actual command that will quit out safely,

What your doing is like knocking someone out which a baseball bat who can’t sleep, It may do the job, but could cause brain damage – potential death!

But as far as im concerned I wont download anything that poses a potential threat to my PC, sry, nothing personal – I’m sure the mission itself is good.

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #10 on: 18 Jan 2004, 22:08:14 »
For God's sake, what's wrong with forceend?!?
« Last Edit: 18 Jan 2004, 22:08:40 by m21man »

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #11 on: 18 Jan 2004, 22:22:56 »
ForceEnd finishes the mission, this chap crazily want to dump you back to windows.

The point of a game is to play it.  I dont think there would be anyone who would on purpose want to crash their game.  I have a feeling this is going to be one of those things that the people who are making it think its going to be really amazing, but no one else is going to even look at it.

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #12 on: 18 Jan 2004, 22:46:08 »
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ForceEnd finishes the mission, this chap crazily want to dump you back to windows.
I know that's what he wanted to do, I was asking what was wrong with just ending the mission.

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but no one else is going to even look at it.
Especially if it's known that the mission crashes your computer.
« Last Edit: 18 Jan 2004, 22:46:24 by m21man »

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #13 on: 18 Jan 2004, 22:52:58 »
I have a feeling this is going to be one of those things that the people who are making it think its going to be really amazing, but no one else is going to even look at it.

Yeah, like look at me i can make a windows pc crash  :o

Hey i can do that by just looking at the thing  8)   ;D
« Last Edit: 18 Jan 2004, 22:53:20 by MachoMan »
Get those missions out there you morons!

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #14 on: 18 Jan 2004, 23:15:57 »
Fine,

i know where Im not wanted, Ill just go and hang myself  (find's rope)

but let me just say i had the EXACTLY the same thoughts as all of you - until I saw it, and Im not easily impressed,  (ties noose)

its just one of those things that no one believes until they see it (hang's self - rope snaps)

Anyway Ill leave this open so you can finish me off  :(  (reaches for gun)

sry guys (redecorates wall in 'hint of red')
« Last Edit: 18 Jan 2004, 23:17:27 by bigcheese »

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #15 on: 19 Jan 2004, 03:08:09 »
bigcheese, I won't mock you  :P

  I've been playing around with making addons recently, and lemme just say I've had many an experience with OFP crashing to the desktop with no explanation. You would need to make a custom addon for your mission, but it is possible to do exactly what you want (I know, unfortunately...  :( )

  PM me and I can show you. But could I be let in on the secret then? I promise I wouldn't tell anybody!  ::)
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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #16 on: 19 Jan 2004, 07:18:24 »
guys, calm down a lil bit

I couldn't see bigcheese been asking anywhere in this
thread how to do damage to anyones pc.

All i could see was him asking for: how to make the game
ctd.

You all accuse him to want to make damage to other's pc's.
That's not what he was asking for.

Maybe someone could have just answered:

"No it's not possible to do what you want in a 100% secure
way without the risk of making damage to someone elses
pc - at least AFAIK"


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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #17 on: 19 Jan 2004, 09:19:18 »
The only scenario I can imagine this to work in would be a Matrix mod where you get 'unplugged'. Even then it's a bit extreme to quit the whole game. It kind of forces something on the user that they don't really want. Especially if they want to carry on playing a different mission without having to load the game again.

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #18 on: 19 Jan 2004, 09:59:19 »
I really don't see why everyone thinks it would be so "harsh" to quit the program. Oh my god, is it that hard to simply open up ofp again? It's not like you can have anything up that you need to save or anything. Seeings how I don't think anyone has ever done this before, it could be a very unique and memorable effect. Depending on how/why it is implemented, of course.
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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #19 on: 19 Jan 2004, 10:46:24 »
Oh btw - i forgot to mention that above:

Personally i don't like the idea of gettin shutdown OFP
without meself having clicked onto QUIT.

However, not my problem - will be yours and those who like
the idea.

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #20 on: 19 Jan 2004, 11:11:45 »
If I was ever to review a mission which shuts down ofp I'd give it a flat 0 and the worst beating ever, even if it was ment to do so in the mission plot.
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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #21 on: 19 Jan 2004, 17:01:04 »
I don't know what all the fuss is about.   You're running a Windows OS, right?   And you want it to crash, right?

This is just like going on a date with a girl who's drinking neat vodka.   All you have to do is wait ...
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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #22 on: 21 Jan 2004, 13:49:49 »
I guess they simply consider CTD the fastest way to shut down Operation Flashpoint (loading and unloading ofp takes quite long on computers with less than 1Ghz)

might come in handy for those playing & editing OFP when they're not supposed to!  :-X

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #23 on: 21 Jan 2004, 14:18:07 »
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might come in handy for those playing & editing OFP when they're not supposed to!
You'd have to play to the point in the mission where the CTD occurs ::) .

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #24 on: 21 Jan 2004, 14:21:16 »
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You'd have to play to the point in the mission where the CTD occurs  .

Don't forget: radio-calls / custom actions   ;)

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #25 on: 21 Jan 2004, 14:23:34 »
Yeah, then you can accidently send the wrong radio signal (I do it often when in combat) and CTD :P >:( .

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #26 on: 21 Jan 2004, 15:42:00 »
But then you still don't need to play the mission until
you reach the CTD point.

Anyway this may become (or is) a rather pointless discussion,
as i never said that it's good to have a radio-call-CTD.  :D

Let's do some useful stuff again (*where's me cigarettes*)  ;D

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #27 on: 26 Feb 2004, 21:06:54 »
arnt u all bein just a tad slack????

i no the idea sounds pretty stupid but if he says he thought it was pretty stupid at 1st but den saw it an it was pretty gud lets give it a chance.

Well im gonna give it a chance (my comps almost ready for da bin any way)

u have my support bigcheese (its really hard 2 take u seriously wid a name like dat, lol)

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #28 on: 26 Feb 2004, 21:11:32 »
It's hard to take you seriously with typing like that :D

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #29 on: 26 Feb 2004, 23:17:23 »
You know bigcheese, you make it very strange...
The fact is that you feel somewhat guilty for asking that... At first, there's absolutely no reason...

"at the moment we just have to alt-f4 it every time in the previews"
What would the Alt-F4 combination do, except quiting the game? Can you tell us what's this non-sense?... And how can crashing your computer produce such an effect?

"its just one of those things that no one believes until they see it"
Well, actually, telling us what it IS might be the first step to believing it or not...
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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #30 on: 27 Feb 2004, 03:09:24 »
Wow, I wonder how this old thread got dug up  :o

   I already let BigCheese know how to get a consistent CTD with no error message or anything.

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"at the moment we just have to alt-f4 it every time in the previews"
What would the Alt-F4 combination do, except quiting the game? Can you tell us what's this non-sense?... And how can crashing your computer produce such an effect?

  What she is saying is that they want to make a cutscene where at one point, the game completely closes and exits in one fell swoop. It would look similar to what it looks like when you press alt-f4 (the program just closes). The only way to do this is to crash OFP, but the desire is to not have any error messages displayed after the program crashes, like "error, memory out of range" or something.

   I know I'm not the only one who has ever made ofp CTD like this. One very simple way to do it is to run this line of script:

Code: [Select]
unit action["USER TYPE"]
  I don't know what all this hysteria is about a CTD "damaging your computer". Haven't you ever had a program crash before? Like IE or something? Has it ever damaged your computer? I've crashed my OFP many, many times, and never have I damaged my computer because of it.

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #31 on: 27 Feb 2004, 13:00:49 »
I don't understand why they have to alt-f4 the game to view the effect...
And you know I'm not against what they're trying to do, it's just that I don't understand...

I didn't notice that this thread was so old... is that cutscene already finished?

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #32 on: 27 Feb 2004, 13:41:49 »
BTW:
Just to end a few little things:
If you call a .paa file (For Example in a TitleText defined in the description.ext)
which does not have the dimensions of 2^n, the game will crash

However it is clear that NO public misson should use a "crash to desktop".
For Pirvate missions, just me and my friends...well I personally wouldn't like
it either, but then there are strange people in this world.

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« Reply #33 on: 27 Feb 2004, 22:33:02 »
@BibiPhoque

   You don't have to alt-f4 to view the effect. BigCheese just wanted to see what it would look like if the game CTD'd, and since she didn't know how to do that, she was simulating a CTD by pressing alt-f4 at the time in the cutscene where the game was supposed to CTD.
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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #34 on: 28 Feb 2004, 02:04:36 »
It's an old thread.  Let the poor thing die.  Incontinence is not appealing in a thread.

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #35 on: 28 Feb 2004, 14:12:43 »
alright =)

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #36 on: 01 Mar 2004, 10:48:32 »
Well id be willing to try the mission.....i mean, it might be good, it might actually be amazing, it might be plain crap....we dont know, not until we try it, its senseless to knock the idea before we know anything about it.

And its probably a case of, if she told us WHY they needed it, it wouldnt work as well.....

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« Reply #37 on: 16 Jul 2004, 18:46:57 »
i know this is probably really out of context now because

a) this thread is getting old
b) everyone agrees its kinda silly
c) its not really plausible/a good idea

BUT i did come across a bug with "removeallweapons" in an intro i was making whereby i gave this guy a handgun, got him to "do fire" and then took all his weapons away

for some reason flashpoint disagreed with this and simply shut down and returned me to a desktop with no mention that it had shut down or crashed

weird sounding, and difficult to recreate but you never know....

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #38 on: 16 Jul 2004, 19:32:36 »
So have you managed it twice?
Y'should prob report it to BIS or summint..?
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« Reply #39 on: 20 Jul 2004, 17:48:19 »
funnily enough it did happen twice, it was in the same intro though just in different triggers/scripts

as for reporting it to BIS, id be reluctant because i doubt another patch will be too forthcoming because they are focussing on OFP2 i think

plus it could be my PC :P

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #40 on: 21 Jul 2004, 00:19:33 »
Well I'll continue this train wreck but I heard of some animations that crash the game. I haven't tried them, but others have and well here they are...

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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #41 on: 21 Jul 2004, 01:15:45 »
No.......but these things can happen when a mission encounters problems like missing addons or badly configured addons.

Or the game runs into a fatal system error or no memory.


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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #42 on: 21 Jul 2004, 02:18:11 »
That's not a good thing, you shouldn't experiment with a blue screen deal like that. I'd be afraid my nice 120gb HD might get wiped.... :'( :P

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« Reply #43 on: 22 Jul 2004, 00:10:44 »
I really think discussion on this thread should stop. For god's sake, the thing is old enough....
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Re:how do i exit flashpoint?
« Reply #44 on: 22 Jul 2004, 01:29:36 »
Alrighty I'm out...

Why are you back? Its not Aug 11 yet? :D