More Resistance Vehicles

[fragsta]

mayb the res could make their own version of a certain tank with slightly different weapons and ability for people to sit on the side and man machine guns they stuck on with masking tape and pva glue. that would be good if someone made that!

[calm_terror]

i could see res maybe  makign a hybid tank from m113, m1a1, m60, m2a2, and type 72 and 80's
that would be kinda funny to see a t-80 with an m1a1 turrent and main gun on it... or a m113 with a t-80 turrent.
some smaller countries do that ype of thing turn their old out of date tanks into troop carries and stuff.
and res should have atleast a huey or 2. anyone can by those.. and simple to add a gun to the side.
as for the black ops in the campains. they are cia ops. they are trained  in everything russian. they know russian equment better then they know american.. so it is easy to see him flying a russian helo..

[Drozdov]

Hey, the Resistance are farmers from a small island in a cold sea. You think they could dismantle an Abrams' gun and put a T80 chassis on it? They can't even keep their doors on their hinges! (look at the buildings in the original islands). Maybe they can fix tractors, but... tanks?

and res should have atleast a huey or 2. anyone can by those.. and simple to add a gun to the side.
as for the black ops in the campains. they are cia ops. they are trained  in everything russian. they know russian equment better then they know american.. so it is easy to see him flying a russian helo..

Okay, that's assuming that the aforementioned farmers can fly helicopters, never mind actually having the money to buy one   . And it's not the fact that they fly Russian choppers so much as its the fact that they're flying any chopper. I don't think many black ops are taught this (unless there are black op pilots). Plus, Dmitri Lukin not only flies a Chopper but rides a T72 as well! What a well-rounded guy! Though with an auto loader it probably isn't that hard to be a gunner...

[fragsta]

i think they could fly choppers, a few of them are pretty skilled seemin as they drive tanks and stuff. Anyway, how hard could it be?

[Drozdov]

Umm... fairly hard I would imagine. Just because aircraft are piss-easy to fly in OFP doesn't make them easy in real life. Just to test your theory go and steal a helicopter from your nearest airport. See if you can get it off the ground without any teaching.

[Vyper]

Your thinking too much into this....the resistance doesn't have to be farmers and stuff...its just a side who can be neutral or against all or whatever...

the game isn't bound by cold war crisis or resistance....the resistance can be whatever the hell we want them to be!

Vyper

[fragsta]

you give a very good point vyper. Just cause they have a farming community doesnt mean they are farmers. How the hell would victor troska and all of his men know how to fire his gun, and drive a tank and stuff like that if he had no training.

[KJAM]

maybe they could have a Tractor.......with M"'s stuck on it.....and explosive chickens fired from a turret : D

[Drozdov]

Unless you're using the Resistance as another professional army then they would have fuck-all training. They would know how to run and shoot but not much more. Certainly helicopters would be off the map. And I think if they're from a farming community on an island with no factories and shops then there's a good chance they're farmers. But still, Vyper is right that the Resistance can be whoever you want them to be.

I did try to make a tractor with a machine gun (it would be a real hit with farmers) but it didn't work. I can get it so that it has the aiming dot but it won't fire.

[KJAM]

i had an idea.....might be hard to do but a civilian vehicle with oddsNsods stuck on it wildly like bits of metal an wood an anything else that wud protect it some

[calm_terror]

actual some tanks would be kinda liek driving a tractor and repairing one. but in the campains they are not all farmers some are cops and some where the military of novagic or whatever that island is..and if you damage the tracks on a tank you cna fix those if you ever worked on a dozer.
the sherman tank was effectiv cuz it was simple and farm boys could use it and fix it cuz it was jsut like working on a tracker and stuff..
so it is not that far fetched.
and helos and aircraft cna be hired.. look at bay of pigs..
some where flown by cia but alot where cubans taught how to fly by cia pilots.. it is not hard to take a crash course in flying. heck even those saudia terrorist that rammed the wtc could learned to fly in small planes then flew jumbo jets..

[Mr_Shady]

Most tanks are quite simple to drive, since they usually have two turning sticks, a gear stick, and then accelerator, brake and clutch pedals. The difficulty lies in using the main gun properly (the "manual" sights for the main gun aren't as simple as the point-shoot-repeat ones in OFP, quite hard to explain what they look like, but it's damn complicated unless you're a trained tank gunner), and maintaining the beast, especially if it's a Western tank (the Russian T62 had a modified bus engine, so anyone who'd seen an engine before could fix it, within reason).

[fragsta]

How about this:

A rich Russian businessman is in Nogova for....business....anyway, he has a helicopter and it is being piloted by a....well....helicopter pilot. So this just happens to be during the invasion, and the Helicopter is shot down, and the businessman dies (what  a shame  ;D) but the pilot survives. He is captured by the resistance, and they realize he is friendly, merely a servant to the Fatcat communist, and take him in as a fighter, and he accepts their offer. They later capture a russian helicopter, perhaps a V80, and they ask the pilot (who meanwhile has given very basic training to res soldiers in how to fly) to use that helicopter to attack the russians. Good?

[Mr_Shady]

The problem with helicopters is that they cost a lot to run and need lots of maintainance. Sure, a civillian pilot might be able to get to grips with a military whirlybird, but he'd know less than the square root of bugger all about how to use the weapons on it.

But this is all getting off-topic. Like Vyper said, the "Resistance" side is not neccesarily restricted to militia units, it's simply a side that can be set to fight either, neither or both the Eastern and Western sides. Personally, I reckon they should have made it dead simple and gone with Goodies, Baddies and Undecided  ;D

[Drozdov]

Ah but unless the tag of 'Goodies' and 'Baddies' was interchangeable it would be restrictive. Not everyone wants to make the Soviets the baddies.

Isn't 'Fatcat Communist' a contradiction in terms? Either way, it's an obscure idea.