WWIIEC's Generic Holland/Europe

[Soldier8Boy]

The beautiful Dutch farmlands.

[Soldier8Boy]

Taking cover behind the corpse of a dead cow.

[Soldier8Boy]

Approaching the ruins of a farmhouse.

[Soldier8Boy]

Moving through the countryside.

[Soldier8Boy]

Streets of generic Arnheim.

[Soldier8Boy]

Over-looking the massive bridge.

[Soldier8Boy]

Crossing the bridge to the other side.

[Soldier8Boy]

Leaving the city into the countryside.

[Soldier8Boy]

In the open countryside.

[Soldier8Boy]

Nearing a small town.

[Soldier8Boy]

Nearing a manor.

[Soldier8Boy]

Looking across the forested landscape.

[Cpt. FrostBite]

Hey looks nice, dude.
There was an old pic of arnhem on the WW2EC site (where a german soldier stood at the bottum of the bridge) and I printed it. It was laying on the table untill my dad picked it up. He looked at it and the first thing he said was; "he, that's Arnhem". Now is that a complimant or what?   (I'm from he netherlands)

Off-topic; Any idea when your site will be back up??

[Soldier8Boy]

I'm under the impression that it will be back up within a week, and my island will be released then too.

[Soldier8Boy]

I'd like to collect suggestions to put in before i release my first beta which should be within a week.

So, please give me some good idea's that go with a generic Holland landscape.

[Jakerod]

Put the trees in random directions
Add more foliage cuz some of the pictures look a bit plain like screeny 17, 14 and 13. They dont look like there is enough foliage there.  Could add some more to it.

Cant tell from the pic but if they arent already in random directions make the cows in random directions

[Soldier8Boy]

Good eye, thanks man. I forgot all about changing directions. lol

[ScouseJedi]

Hmm you appear to be lacking a Dutch Barn like this
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With the WW2EC site being down it went on a back burner but I recal promising someone there I would work on it.

If theres still time for its inclusion drop me a line. Its only a few hours from completion.

[Lt HuNTeR]

One question: is the island only going to comprise of the Arnhem area, or is it going to be a mix of various parts of Holland?

[Soldier8Boy]

It's a generic so it'll have representations of various parts. Scousejedi, that'd be great if you could finish that up.

[GodHatesUsAll]

Man, that looks fan-fuckin'-tastic!

Good work man, cant wait till it is released.  ;D

[unkie]

i have a request, could we have some decent walls? i just watched BoB again (havent seen it for a while) and was watching the one set in Nuenen (i think thats holland?). The battle there is what id like to get a feel of...skirmishing through a farm with plenty of low brick/stone walls/haycarts/haystacks and general cover to hide behind.

[Magnus]

I am making a Dutch Map asswel. Because after that I will be making a British Campiagn on it. And the Battle for Oosterbeek will be the same as you see in BoB. So be aware...

[ScouseJedi]

i have a request, could we have some decent walls? i just watched BoB again (havent seen it for a while) and was watching the one set in Nuenen (i think thats holland?). The battle there is what id like to get a feel of...skirmishing through a farm with plenty of low brick/stone walls/haycarts/haystacks and general cover to hide behind.

Like this?

[desert_storm_dude]

looks nice when will wwIIec be back up and do you have a specific date to release this map

will this map also have Eindhoven, and nijmegen

[Magnus]

About that, Nijmegen and Eindhoven where captured by American soldiers, Arnhem by British(Wel not captured but attacked). So I think it would be better if you make 2 maps...

[Magnus]

And ScouseJedi, could you send me those walls???

[Soldier8Boy]

I'll take those walls too, Scouse.

I'll take that suggestion and create fenced fields, walls, etc. It's a generic with a city to represent Arnhem and has the bridge as well.

The site is up, but is being sorted out again. We got a new host and will be running fully very soon.

I have no specific release date for my map.

[Soldier8Boy]

Looking down the driveway.

[Soldier8Boy]

The road through Holland.

[Soldier8Boy]

The countryside.

[Soldier8Boy]

In the farmers field.

[Soldier8Boy]

Looking through the hole in the wall.

[ScouseJedi]

Hmm the farmers field looks a bit empty.

Pan the camera left a little.....

a bit more...

There thats it



@Magnus... well I was sort of making them for Soldier8boy but I don't mind giving them out. Soldier8boy - would you be really pee'd off if I gave the models to Magnus?

I have made some loverly telegraph poles just like the ones in BoB. It was only when testing the things in game I noticed that Bis had already made some very similar ones.... DOH!

The walls (2 types so far) go a little strange when placed together. They get a shadow on them. I dont know why as yet but it makes them look really tiled.

[Soldier8Boy]

Not at all. No worries, Scouse.

[Magnus]

Well than I thank you, My email is 'gunnar_oldenhof88@hotmail.com'. If you have some done send them to me(also my msn). Thanks...

[moba]

Very nice, but I'd like some field in it.... like in Invasion 1944 holland map  

[Magnus]

What do you mean by field? Some open fields?

[Gogs]

I think he means hedgerows, between the fields. In that case, worry not!

[Magnus]

Well I asked, because when he has an idea, I would like to put it in my map asswel. Because I will make it ass dutch as possible...

[Soldier8Boy]

Alright, I now need 2 beta-testers for the island.

[Cpt. FrostBite]

In the farmers field.

oh, yeah. This picture has "nederland" written all over it!! Looks extremely good.
On the island; Often farm-fields are separated by ditches and/or "houtwallen" (a line of trees with bushes between them). I'm not sure if a ditch will be posible (too much detail?) but it will make for nice cover when moving through the open terrain.
And please tell me you will have at least one big river crossing the map (and a bunch of smaller ones connected to it)

This map will be my favorite one, even if it's just because I'm from the netherlands  ;D

[Cpt. FrostBite]

The road through Holland.

This road would be perfect if it had ditches on both sides, for example. (for the picture check the post I'm referring to). Will you have farmhouses that you can enter? (please) Or will you try to make one or edit the one posted above?

[Soldier8Boy]

All the farmhouse's are enterable. Ditches are rather difficult, yes, but i have the tree and bush lines. There is a river with the Arnhem bridge over it, and i'll add some more little rivers for ya. See what i can do. Maybe a lake.

[Cpt. FrostBite]

Yes I already thought having ditches would be difficult, but remember that they don't need to be filled with water. I hope you can add some on the sides of these main (country) roads. The Netherlands are famous for their ditches ;D

Good to hear that the farmhouses can be entered. Also nice to hear there's a river (although I can't imagine how someone could do a holland map without a river   )

I'm looking forward to this one.


Also on farms;
Most farms have a line of (high) trees around them (most of the times one line on either side of the farm terrain). This is because the farm's skeleton is made of the wood of those trees. The farmer plants these trees around his farm, so his son can use these trees to build his farm when he's old enough. (at least that's what they used to be for in the old days). Remember this when placing farms on your island. And place a lot of fences around the farmfields. Practicly avery field has a fence around it. (I'm not sure if you can use a fence that's in the game already, so you might want to consider making one yourself; just a few poles with two lines of barbwire. It would be great if you can crawl under the barb wire. Using the chickenwire fence that's in the game, you can't cross it as a soldier.)